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And he was willing to pay for access. His argument is that the price far exceeds their cost and, with 30 days notice, that's unreasonable. I take him at his wo

And he was willing to pay for access. His argument is that the price far exceeds their cost and, with 30 days notice, that's unreasonable. I take him at his word that he was willing to pay a reasonable amount. Again, Reddit has the right to run their business however they wish. Not arguing that it should be free.

Alupis 3y ago
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- onli 3y ago
  The prices were not known before. There was nothing he could have done.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago
  > He also had way more than 30 day's notice and chose not to do anything until the last moment. > He has had several months to prepare for a new billing model - but chose to do nothing. I like how you keep on refusing to read the article, but claiming things from it that are straight up untrue. Reddit announced less than two months ago that there would be pricing changes. But not what those prices would be. Even the loosest possible interpretation of the words "notice" and "several" barely covers that. Explicitly: > On April 18th, Reddit announced changes that would be coming to the API, namely that the API is moving to a paid model for third-party apps. Shortly thereafter we received phone calls, however the price (the key element in an announcement to move to a paid API) was notably missing, with the intent to follow up with it in 2-4 weeks. And at the time, there was absolutely no indication that the prices would be this high. > The information they did provide however was: we will be moving to a paid API as it's not tenable for Reddit to pay for third-party apps indefinitely (understandable, agreed), so they're looking to do equitable pricing based in reality. They mentioned that they were not looking to be like Twitter, which has API pricing so high it was publicly ridiculed. They announced the actual prices six weeks later, which would put it May 30th. The day he posted this: https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/ https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... Literally the most cursory of reading of the first few paragraphs of the OP would have given you this information. If you aren't going to bother to read it (that's your prerogative), then don't bother making easily provably false assertions as if they were facts, either.
- Jochim 3y ago
  > This is subjective. He's basically saying he's willing to pay an amount that fit into his old, not well thought out business model, and it's up to Reddit to pay for the rest. That's not what he said. He said that it's not feasible to transfer from the current pricing with 30 days notice. That choice is entirely on Reddit, the situation did not demand such a short notice period. They could have smoothed it out but chose not to. I find it strange to push the blame onto someone who was assured by Reddit of their intention to charge a reasonable price, and to work with 3rd parties on a flexible timeline for the introduction of the charges. The worst I can say about the Apollo developer is that he believed Reddit were acting in good faith. Reddit on the other hand look like incompetent arseholes.

Alupis 3y ago

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onli 3y ago
The prices were not known before. There was nothing he could have done.
mynameisvlad 3y ago
> He also had way more than 30 day's notice and chose not to do anything until the last moment. > He has had several months to prepare for a new billing model - but chose to do nothing. I like how you keep on refusing to read the article, but claiming things from it that are straight up untrue. Reddit announced less than two months ago that there would be pricing changes. But not what those prices would be. Even the loosest possible interpretation of the words "notice" and "several" barely covers that. Explicitly: > On April 18th, Reddit announced changes that would be coming to the API, namely that the API is moving to a paid model for third-party apps. Shortly thereafter we received phone calls, however the price (the key element in an announcement to move to a paid API) was notably missing, with the intent to follow up with it in 2-4 weeks. And at the time, there was absolutely no indication that the prices would be this high. > The information they did provide however was: we will be moving to a paid API as it's not tenable for Reddit to pay for third-party apps indefinitely (understandable, agreed), so they're looking to do equitable pricing based in reality. They mentioned that they were not looking to be like Twitter, which has API pricing so high it was publicly ridiculed. They announced the actual prices six weeks later, which would put it May 30th. The day he posted this: https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_call_with_reddit_to_discuss_pricing_bad/ https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca... Literally the most cursory of reading of the first few paragraphs of the OP would have given you this information. If you aren't going to bother to read it (that's your prerogative), then don't bother making easily provably false assertions as if they were facts, either.
Jochim 3y ago
> This is subjective. He's basically saying he's willing to pay an amount that fit into his old, not well thought out business model, and it's up to Reddit to pay for the rest. That's not what he said. He said that it's not feasible to transfer from the current pricing with 30 days notice. That choice is entirely on Reddit, the situation did not demand such a short notice period. They could have smoothed it out but chose not to. I find it strange to push the blame onto someone who was assured by Reddit of their intention to charge a reasonable price, and to work with 3rd parties on a flexible timeline for the introduction of the charges. The worst I can say about the Apollo developer is that he believed Reddit were acting in good faith. Reddit on the other hand look like incompetent arseholes.