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If you think that you can obtain a permit to put such eyesore as a seaweed farm in front of Copacabana, well... good luck with it. But we could of course build

If you think that you can obtain a permit to put such eyesore as a seaweed farm in front of Copacabana, well... good luck with it. But we could of course build it in the middle of nowhere, and then spend lots of fuel to move the product to the far-far-away markets, and even feel good about our ecological trace for a couple seconds.

worik 3y ago
> permit to put such eyesore as a seaweed farm in front of Copacabana, well... good luck with it. I think you should think about what I actually said. Copacabana is right by a port > But we could of course build it in the middle of nowhere Often, in ,any places, wild and unpopulated wet bits are right beside transport routes on the dry bits. Less than twenty miles from where I sit
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selimthegrim 3y ago
Yes tell us more about the notably clean bays of Rio de Janeiro
- pvaldes 3y ago
  This is not about being clean or not, is about being previously occupied by another activity that is economically much stronger so you just can't compete or displace them. All the good places near the coast are heavily occupied yet so, where do they want to culture all this volume?. The other companies have enough money to buy you off of the road and build an hotel, or are the only remaining place suitable for the local authorities to place the new airport And not all places are suitable to grow brown algae. (Not they aren't. Algae are not so easy to grow as National Geographic seem to suggest. They have predators also). Chinese grow a lot of Palmaria since thousands years and the trend is to replace it for its relatively low value by Hectare, either transform it into crab farms to increase the benefits, or turn it into a developed urban area.
  - worik 3y ago
    > All the good places near the coast are heavily occupied yet so, A bit tiresome repeating myself... The dry bits are populated, not the wet bits
    - pvaldes 3y ago
      You are not understanding how seaweed farms work. Dry areas are required for logistics and as a safety vault. You need space for storage. Space for wintering. Space for each machine that you need to process the production. And drying algae smell. And if you have a big storm alert, you will need to rush to move a huge volume of stuff, cords and algae safely ASAP to the coast and keep there for several hours. You can't just put this in the closest hotel terrace. There is a lot of things that a sea farm needs to survive. And there is a huge load of legal issues, because the sea is not a "free for all" space. Is a high skill / high luck and deep pockets activity. Why could be a big company be interested in this? Well, If you have the money you could culture much higher value products in the same space, right?. I would speculate that is a combination of being able to obtain government aids + real state grab. I can be totally wrong about it, of course.

worik 3y ago

> permit to put such eyesore as a seaweed farm in front of Copacabana, well... good luck with it. I think you should think about what I actually said. Copacabana is right by a port > But we could of course build it in the middle of nowhere Often, in ,any places, wild and unpopulated wet bits are right beside transport routes on the dry bits. Less than twenty miles from where I sit

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selimthegrim 3y ago

Yes tell us more about the notably clean bays of Rio de Janeiro

pvaldes 3y ago
This is not about being clean or not, is about being previously occupied by another activity that is economically much stronger so you just can't compete or displace them. All the good places near the coast are heavily occupied yet so, where do they want to culture all this volume?. The other companies have enough money to buy you off of the road and build an hotel, or are the only remaining place suitable for the local authorities to place the new airport And not all places are suitable to grow brown algae. (Not they aren't. Algae are not so easy to grow as National Geographic seem to suggest. They have predators also). Chinese grow a lot of Palmaria since thousands years and the trend is to replace it for its relatively low value by Hectare, either transform it into crab farms to increase the benefits, or turn it into a developed urban area.
- worik 3y ago
  > All the good places near the coast are heavily occupied yet so, A bit tiresome repeating myself... The dry bits are populated, not the wet bits
  - pvaldes 3y ago
    You are not understanding how seaweed farms work. Dry areas are required for logistics and as a safety vault. You need space for storage. Space for wintering. Space for each machine that you need to process the production. And drying algae smell. And if you have a big storm alert, you will need to rush to move a huge volume of stuff, cords and algae safely ASAP to the coast and keep there for several hours. You can't just put this in the closest hotel terrace. There is a lot of things that a sea farm needs to survive. And there is a huge load of legal issues, because the sea is not a "free for all" space. Is a high skill / high luck and deep pockets activity. Why could be a big company be interested in this? Well, If you have the money you could culture much higher value products in the same space, right?. I would speculate that is a combination of being able to obtain government aids + real state grab. I can be totally wrong about it, of course.