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Taurine? I've been jacking myself full of that since Middle School! Thanks RedBull! Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you" In moderation a

Taurine? I've been jacking myself full of that since Middle School! Thanks RedBull! Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you" In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it.

throwaway888abc 3y ago
Can't stop laughing. The day after is terrible, but with the aging factor relevated - here is the recipe of favorite anti-aging cocktail Jäger Bomb Ingredients 1 1/2 ounces Jägermeister Liqueur 1/2 (8.4-ounce) can Red Bull energy drink https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713 https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713
- winddude 3y ago
  or a nice steak. 1 - 14oz steak, season with tiptop steak seasoning, grill 3-4mins per side on med heat. let rest 5 mins. enjoy.
  - fullspectrumdev 3y ago
    The nice steak and its sides provide the essential… stomach lining… to cope with the jägerbomb
  - numpad0 3y ago
    Octopus and squids works too. Buy boiled and/or pre-sashimi’d, open package, slice as needed and serve with soy sauce. Somehow I hated them as a child. Maybe it was too much for my body back then.
- LuckySalamander 3y ago
  I've always enjoyed Jäger bombs half and half. Then again, no one survives living in Champaign, IL without getting well acquainted to Jägermeister.
  - selectodude 3y ago
    I've was always partial to the Blue Guy at Kams.
- dluan 3y ago
  jaeger has a history as a traditional alpine bitter of serving some sort of medicinal purpose. like chartreuse or absinthe, lots of the herbal ingredients inside sometimes helped soothe upset tummies, or in the case of wormwood, expel parasites and worms.
throwway120385 3y ago
The really interesting clincher wasn't the association of taurine with anti-aging, but the association of exercise with increased serum concentrations of taurine.
browningstreet 3y ago
MSM media is always trying to convince people they can live longer if they stick with coffee, berries, dark chocolate and wine — as if those foods needed boosters. And if true I’m quite sure we’d have people out there living to 150…
- isk517 3y ago
  You probably can live longer if you stick with coffee (black), berries (minus the food you put the berries on top of), dark chocolate (unsweetened), and wine (in strict moderation).
  - gattilorenz 3y ago
    Alcohol is a carcinogen, so if you’re optimizing for “living longer” you should take exactly 0 mL a day. If you’re optimizing for living happier, on the other hand…
    - majkinetor 3y ago
      There is no such thing as 0 tollerance. Don't believe the anti-alcohol hype. There is such thing as hormesis, for basically any poison.
      - paulryanrogers 3y ago
        Evidence for hormesis is not convincing.
        majkinetor 3y ago
        That is not true. Hormesis is a fact.
        paulryanrogers 3y ago
        Can you link to some evidence I may have overlooked?
voytec 3y ago
> Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you" In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it. I mean, pinot noir has a lot of resveratrol. You'd just need 750-1000 glasses daily.
- insanitybit 3y ago
  AFAIK, at this point resveratrol does not look promising.
  - voytec 3y ago
    David Sinclair wrote in "Lifespan"[1] that they extended mice lifespan by (iirc) something like 40% but amounts of resveratrol used was something like mentioned 750-1000 wine glasses daily when translated to humans. While Wikipedia suggests that resveratrol is not proven to help with anything, I'm still taking 600mg in the morning, along with 600mg ALA and 100mg of CoQ10. Placebo is an effect, too. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespan%3A_Why_We_Age_%E2%80%93_and_Why_We_Don%27t_Have_To https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespan%3A_Why_We_Age_%E2%80%...
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmmBJq0NNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmmBJq0NNo I think at this point Sinclair has lost a lot of credibility
      - voytec 3y ago
        Thank you. Saddening but informative. I was chatting about resveratrol this very week with a colleague, ex pro athlete, writing about "Nutrition in Sports" for his PhD. Looking forward to discussing these findings with him.
- K0balt 3y ago
  Is that a challenge? Because my mother in law just calls that Thursday.
quietbritishjim 3y ago
> The median life span of taurine-treated mice increased by 10 to 12%, and life expectancy at 28 months increased by about 18 to 25%. A meaningful antiaging therapy should not only improve life span but also health span, the period of healthy living. We, therefore, investigated the health of taurine-fed middle-aged mice and found an improved functioning of bone, muscle, pancreas, brain, fat, gut, and immune system, indicating an overall increase in health span. We observed similar effects in monkeys. I don't think any studies have shown red wine to have a clear casual impact like that, even just in mice.
- qbrass 3y ago
  10-12% of a mouse's life is 5 or 6 months. Assuming it's going to extend human lives by 7 years and not 6 months is being optimistic at best.
arduinomancer 3y ago
> Not buying it What is there not to buy? They tested it in mice and it increased lifespan, they never claimed it worked for humans in the study. > To test whether taurine deficiency is a driver of aging in humans as well, long-term, well-controlled taurine supplementation trials that measure health span and life span as outcomes are required. Did you read the abstract?
hindsightbias 3y ago
Do they actually have mice drink wine?
az226 3y ago
Unfortunately all the sugar is working in the opposite direction.

throwaway888abc 3y ago

Can't stop laughing. The day after is terrible, but with the aging factor relevated - here is the recipe of favorite anti-aging cocktail Jäger Bomb Ingredients 1 1/2 ounces Jägermeister Liqueur 1/2 (8.4-ounce) can Red Bull energy drink https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713 https://www.thespruceeats.com/jager-bomb-recipe-759713

winddude 3y ago
or a nice steak. 1 - 14oz steak, season with tiptop steak seasoning, grill 3-4mins per side on med heat. let rest 5 mins. enjoy.
- fullspectrumdev 3y ago
  The nice steak and its sides provide the essential… stomach lining… to cope with the jägerbomb
- numpad0 3y ago
  Octopus and squids works too. Buy boiled and/or pre-sashimi’d, open package, slice as needed and serve with soy sauce. Somehow I hated them as a child. Maybe it was too much for my body back then.
LuckySalamander 3y ago
I've always enjoyed Jäger bombs half and half. Then again, no one survives living in Champaign, IL without getting well acquainted to Jägermeister.
- selectodude 3y ago
  I've was always partial to the Blue Guy at Kams.
dluan 3y ago
jaeger has a history as a traditional alpine bitter of serving some sort of medicinal purpose. like chartreuse or absinthe, lots of the herbal ingredients inside sometimes helped soothe upset tummies, or in the case of wormwood, expel parasites and worms.

throwway120385 3y ago

The really interesting clincher wasn't the association of taurine with anti-aging, but the association of exercise with increased serum concentrations of taurine.

browningstreet 3y ago

MSM media is always trying to convince people they can live longer if they stick with coffee, berries, dark chocolate and wine — as if those foods needed boosters. And if true I’m quite sure we’d have people out there living to 150…

isk517 3y ago
You probably can live longer if you stick with coffee (black), berries (minus the food you put the berries on top of), dark chocolate (unsweetened), and wine (in strict moderation).
- gattilorenz 3y ago
  Alcohol is a carcinogen, so if you’re optimizing for “living longer” you should take exactly 0 mL a day. If you’re optimizing for living happier, on the other hand…
  - majkinetor 3y ago
    There is no such thing as 0 tollerance. Don't believe the anti-alcohol hype. There is such thing as hormesis, for basically any poison.
    - paulryanrogers 3y ago
      Evidence for hormesis is not convincing.
      - majkinetor 3y ago
        That is not true. Hormesis is a fact.
        paulryanrogers 3y ago
        Can you link to some evidence I may have overlooked?

voytec 3y ago

> Jokes aside, This feels like one of "Wine is Good for you" In moderation and other fine point details. Not buying it. I mean, pinot noir has a lot of resveratrol. You'd just need 750-1000 glasses daily.

insanitybit 3y ago
AFAIK, at this point resveratrol does not look promising.
- voytec 3y ago
  David Sinclair wrote in "Lifespan"[1] that they extended mice lifespan by (iirc) something like 40% but amounts of resveratrol used was something like mentioned 750-1000 wine glasses daily when translated to humans. While Wikipedia suggests that resveratrol is not proven to help with anything, I'm still taking 600mg in the morning, along with 600mg ALA and 100mg of CoQ10. Placebo is an effect, too. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespan%3A_Why_We_Age_%E2%80%93_and_Why_We_Don%27t_Have_To https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lifespan%3A_Why_We_Age_%E2%80%...
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmmBJq0NNo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGmmBJq0NNo I think at this point Sinclair has lost a lot of credibility
    - voytec 3y ago
      Thank you. Saddening but informative. I was chatting about resveratrol this very week with a colleague, ex pro athlete, writing about "Nutrition in Sports" for his PhD. Looking forward to discussing these findings with him.
K0balt 3y ago
Is that a challenge? Because my mother in law just calls that Thursday.

quietbritishjim 3y ago

> The median life span of taurine-treated mice increased by 10 to 12%, and life expectancy at 28 months increased by about 18 to 25%. A meaningful antiaging therapy should not only improve life span but also health span, the period of healthy living. We, therefore, investigated the health of taurine-fed middle-aged mice and found an improved functioning of bone, muscle, pancreas, brain, fat, gut, and immune system, indicating an overall increase in health span. We observed similar effects in monkeys. I don't think any studies have shown red wine to have a clear casual impact like that, even just in mice.

qbrass 3y ago
10-12% of a mouse's life is 5 or 6 months. Assuming it's going to extend human lives by 7 years and not 6 months is being optimistic at best.

arduinomancer 3y ago

> Not buying it What is there not to buy? They tested it in mice and it increased lifespan, they never claimed it worked for humans in the study. > To test whether taurine deficiency is a driver of aging in humans as well, long-term, well-controlled taurine supplementation trials that measure health span and life span as outcomes are required. Did you read the abstract?

hindsightbias 3y ago

Do they actually have mice drink wine?

az226 3y ago

Unfortunately all the sugar is working in the opposite direction.