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I think there are two distinct things getting mixed up. Should he have been able to? No, that's a concerning setup for the reasons you say. How bad is what he

by IanCal 3y ago

I think there are two distinct things getting mixed up. Should he have been able to? No, that's a concerning setup for the reasons you say. How bad is what he actually did, from what we actually know? For about an hour, comments that said "fuck spez" after he banned the pizzagate sub were changed to "fuck $the_donald_mod_name". I just don't find that a big deal. It's not like editing your comment to say you drink at work.

kstrauser 3y ago
Again, all we know is that he has lied about what users have said in comments. We just don't know to what degree. For me, not knowing that is completely unacceptable. If he only made those changes and solemnly vowed never to do it again, fine, shouldn't have done it but whatever. But who besides him can say for sure?
- IanCal 3y ago
  > Again, all we know is that he has lied about what users have said in comments You mean changing fuck spez to fuck $mod? > We just don't know to what degree Well I'm not sure what auditing they have, and I know there's public databases of all Reddit comments. It's been a while and I'm not aware of other claims. My point was more that you two were arguing at crossroads. You seemed more concerned about what could have happened, and they were talking about what has evidence.
mrguyorama 3y ago
The problem is that it is impossible to prove he has never done that other times. He played his hand that he is willing to put words in other people's mouths basically just for entertainment, so why should we believe he hasn't done it in much more important cases?
- IanCal 3y ago
  Again that's one of the two things being discussed. My main point was that there were two things being discussed rather than one. > He played his hand that he is willing to put words in other people's mouths basically just for entertainment, so why should we believe he hasn't done it in much more important cases? I find this logic a bit backwards. Willing to do something when the stakes and impact are low to annoy someone trolling you is very different from changing comments in important situations.

by IanCal 3y ago

kstrauser 3y ago

Again, all we know is that he has lied about what users have said in comments. We just don't know to what degree. For me, not knowing that is completely unacceptable. If he only made those changes and solemnly vowed never to do it again, fine, shouldn't have done it but whatever. But who besides him can say for sure?

IanCal 3y ago
> Again, all we know is that he has lied about what users have said in comments You mean changing fuck spez to fuck $mod? > We just don't know to what degree Well I'm not sure what auditing they have, and I know there's public databases of all Reddit comments. It's been a while and I'm not aware of other claims. My point was more that you two were arguing at crossroads. You seemed more concerned about what could have happened, and they were talking about what has evidence.

mrguyorama 3y ago

The problem is that it is impossible to prove he has never done that other times. He played his hand that he is willing to put words in other people's mouths basically just for entertainment, so why should we believe he hasn't done it in much more important cases?

IanCal 3y ago
Again that's one of the two things being discussed. My main point was that there were two things being discussed rather than one. > He played his hand that he is willing to put words in other people's mouths basically just for entertainment, so why should we believe he hasn't done it in much more important cases? I find this logic a bit backwards. Willing to do something when the stakes and impact are low to annoy someone trolling you is very different from changing comments in important situations.