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Okay cool, so what is your timeline for how long will it take to stop humans from being greedy? You realize any solution that is "rich people stop being greedy"

Okay cool, so what is your timeline for how long will it take to stop humans from being greedy? You realize any solution that is "rich people stop being greedy" is no solution at all?

ethanbond 3y ago
What do you think nation states are? They’re systems to prevent “most muscular and monstrous man wins everything.” We build such systems all the time and they do appear to be stable. The modern world couldn’t exist without their success.
- svachalek 3y ago
  Are you thinking of democracy or something? There are plenty of nation states that are simply "most muscular and monstrous man wins everything".
- snapcaster 3y ago
  Nation states are able to retain stability while having greedy rich actors. That's why it's a solution and yours isn't
bequanna 3y ago
Who are these greedy people exactly? “Being greedy” is having food on the table, a roof over my head, and a few nice things?
- ben_w 3y ago
  Each of those words may be carrying more load than you intended. Food on the table — Rice, lentils, peas: not greedy; Beef burgers, caviar, civet coffee: kinda is. Roof over your head — traditional hut, not greedy; penthouse suite in Dubai, greedy. A few nice things? So many options. Once was, aluminium and purple(!) both cost more than gold. Is it "a nice thing" or "greedy" for me to fly to some paradise island for a week vacation? Or to own a fursuit? Or a normal suit? Or to get an electric bike instead of a manual one? (I'm in favour of raising everyone to the level of current royalty; I think this can be done without wrecking everything, but we have to solve some problems first).
- alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
  Being greedy is declaring the food and the house is yours, and kick everybody accordingly. Then you offer as little food as possible in exchange for 18 hour shifts of housekeeping
  - bequanna 3y ago
    I’m sorry, I don’t follow what you’re saying. What percentage of people do what you’re describing?

Okay cool, so what is your timeline for how long will it take to stop humans from being greedy? You realize any solution that is "rich people stop being greedy" is no solution at all?

ethanbond 3y ago

What do you think nation states are? They’re systems to prevent “most muscular and monstrous man wins everything.” We build such systems all the time and they do appear to be stable. The modern world couldn’t exist without their success.

svachalek 3y ago
Are you thinking of democracy or something? There are plenty of nation states that are simply "most muscular and monstrous man wins everything".
snapcaster 3y ago
Nation states are able to retain stability while having greedy rich actors. That's why it's a solution and yours isn't

bequanna 3y ago

Who are these greedy people exactly? “Being greedy” is having food on the table, a roof over my head, and a few nice things?

ben_w 3y ago
Each of those words may be carrying more load than you intended. Food on the table — Rice, lentils, peas: not greedy; Beef burgers, caviar, civet coffee: kinda is. Roof over your head — traditional hut, not greedy; penthouse suite in Dubai, greedy. A few nice things? So many options. Once was, aluminium and purple(!) both cost more than gold. Is it "a nice thing" or "greedy" for me to fly to some paradise island for a week vacation? Or to own a fursuit? Or a normal suit? Or to get an electric bike instead of a manual one? (I'm in favour of raising everyone to the level of current royalty; I think this can be done without wrecking everything, but we have to solve some problems first).
alvarezbjm-hn 3y ago
Being greedy is declaring the food and the house is yours, and kick everybody accordingly. Then you offer as little food as possible in exchange for 18 hour shifts of housekeeping
- bequanna 3y ago
  I’m sorry, I don’t follow what you’re saying. What percentage of people do what you’re describing?