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> and thus allows you to be tracked While true, something to note is that german train and metro stations, in general, have no ticket barriers. Tickets are onl

> and thus allows you to be tracked While true, something to note is that german train and metro stations, in general, have no ticket barriers. Tickets are only checked by staff on trains, on a (very) random basis for local / metro trains. I've had months in which my ticket wasn't checked at all while using it every single day.

aleph_minus_one 3y ago
More tracking will come as soon as the 49 euro ticket becomes more widely spread ... :-(
- dathinab 3y ago
  no less, because there is now less profit to make from it because now most people have a ticket I don't think I have been checked a single time in the last 2 years.
  - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
    > I don't think I have been checked a single time in the last 2 years. My experience differs a lot: I go by train (in Germany) rather often and would say that it was more common to be checked than not (i.e. for me the probability of being checked was more than 1/2).
    - dathinab 3y ago
      like public "city" transportation or regional trains? in regional trains you get checked more often (longer distances, less passenger exchange and per-train personal have this as a side effect), but already it's somewhat tricky to have a regional train ticket which is not linked to your name in public "city" transportation it's semi-random but also there are times & stations where statistically it's most likely to find someone without an ticket and in turn this places/times get checked very frequent and if you are there every day at the specific time-frames you are unlucky and also get checked very frequent. But most times and place combinations do not have this issue and some are close to guaranteed that you don't get checked.
  - morelisp 3y ago
    Ticket control in Berlin seems to have gotten extremely centralized. 5y ago it was pretty random where they might walk a few people through scanning on the train, today it's almost always checks on the platform at major hubs / tourist centers. I don't know if this a real change of policy or a side result of the BVG changing their contractors.
    - dathinab 3y ago
      it's about money they check the place/time combo they are most likely to find a person without ticket most often
      - morelisp 3y ago
        Even if this is true it's a change.

aleph_minus_one 3y ago

More tracking will come as soon as the 49 euro ticket becomes more widely spread ... :-(

dathinab 3y ago
no less, because there is now less profit to make from it because now most people have a ticket I don't think I have been checked a single time in the last 2 years.
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  > I don't think I have been checked a single time in the last 2 years. My experience differs a lot: I go by train (in Germany) rather often and would say that it was more common to be checked than not (i.e. for me the probability of being checked was more than 1/2).
  - dathinab 3y ago
    like public "city" transportation or regional trains? in regional trains you get checked more often (longer distances, less passenger exchange and per-train personal have this as a side effect), but already it's somewhat tricky to have a regional train ticket which is not linked to your name in public "city" transportation it's semi-random but also there are times & stations where statistically it's most likely to find someone without an ticket and in turn this places/times get checked very frequent and if you are there every day at the specific time-frames you are unlucky and also get checked very frequent. But most times and place combinations do not have this issue and some are close to guaranteed that you don't get checked.
- morelisp 3y ago
  Ticket control in Berlin seems to have gotten extremely centralized. 5y ago it was pretty random where they might walk a few people through scanning on the train, today it's almost always checks on the platform at major hubs / tourist centers. I don't know if this a real change of policy or a side result of the BVG changing their contractors.
  - dathinab 3y ago
    it's about money they check the place/time combo they are most likely to find a person without ticket most often
    - morelisp 3y ago
      Even if this is true it's a change.