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Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic? I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Kore

Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic? I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Korean steel.

BizarroLand 3y ago
Lacquer is resin from trees, not plastic. I don't know if it's better for you than plastic or really anything about its chemical composition, but it's not plastic. Edit: After reading more, there is an acrylic lacquer that was developed in the 1950s that contains plastics, but outside of that, normal or traditional lacquers are typically biological in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer
- ericd 3y ago
  What percentage of lacquers these days do you think is the old natural type? I’d wager it’s very low.
  - BizarroLand 3y ago
    For mass produced items, I would agree. For stuff made by lone craftsmen & small boutique shops, maybe 50/50? Maybe less?
- BobbyJo 3y ago
  When you say "normal", does that mean "common"? As in, if I buy lacquered wood, can I expect it to be synthetic or biological? Is there a way to tell, or do you just have to trust the source?
  - BizarroLand 3y ago
    By Normal, I mean "Non-Synthetic" as it regards to lacquers. For the lacquer you buy in the stores, you will have to examine the contents to see if you have actual lacquer or synthetic petroleum lacquers. As far as wood products, if it was made after the early-mid 80's, assume that if it was lacquered it was done so with a synthetic, or if it is some form of manufactured wood. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-11-09-8603240891-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-11-09-860324...
- pengaru 3y ago
  My impression is that finishes free of petroleum products have become somewhat of a niche cottage industry these days. So I wouldn't assume anything acquired finished by someone else is free of such things, regardless of whatever once-precise names they used to describe the finish. Even when you try DIY-finish something with an eye towards food-safety it's rather challenging. E.g. the "Boiled Linseed Oil" you find on store shelves isn't actually boiled linseed oil, it's usually been adulterated with petroleum distillates and sometimes toxic "dryers" (cobalt comes to mind) to achieve the results boiling used to serve. Here in CA the once common Turpentine which is literally distilled pine trees can't even be sold to the public due to VOCs. The stocked replacements are mostly petroleum distillates, labeled as known to cause cancer in the state. The oil industry has infected everything
  - autoexec 3y ago
    Why would oil companies dispose of their toxic byproducts when they can sell them to companies who will poison the public with them? Since it makes them money and there's zero risk of legal repercussions for it, the only thing that would stop them is having morals and the oil industry certainly isn't burdened with those.
    - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
      This transitive logic applies to chemical companies and pharmaceuticals, more than anyone realizes.
- hinkley 3y ago
  That resin comes from a tree that is the source of the name for urishiol - the chemical that makes poison ivy such a nasty experience. It's probably better than plastic, but remember that coral snake venom and puffer fish toxin are 'all natural' and so the concept of all natural is utter and complete bullshit.

Isn't lacquer technically a sort of plastic? I could find images for Indian Brass Container to learn what it is. But I didn't find anything conclusive for Korean steel.

BizarroLand 3y ago

Lacquer is resin from trees, not plastic. I don't know if it's better for you than plastic or really anything about its chemical composition, but it's not plastic. Edit: After reading more, there is an acrylic lacquer that was developed in the 1950s that contains plastics, but outside of that, normal or traditional lacquers are typically biological in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lacquer

ericd 3y ago
What percentage of lacquers these days do you think is the old natural type? I’d wager it’s very low.
- BizarroLand 3y ago
  For mass produced items, I would agree. For stuff made by lone craftsmen & small boutique shops, maybe 50/50? Maybe less?
BobbyJo 3y ago
When you say "normal", does that mean "common"? As in, if I buy lacquered wood, can I expect it to be synthetic or biological? Is there a way to tell, or do you just have to trust the source?
- BizarroLand 3y ago
  By Normal, I mean "Non-Synthetic" as it regards to lacquers. For the lacquer you buy in the stores, you will have to examine the contents to see if you have actual lacquer or synthetic petroleum lacquers. As far as wood products, if it was made after the early-mid 80's, assume that if it was lacquered it was done so with a synthetic, or if it is some form of manufactured wood. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-11-09-8603240891-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1986-11-09-860324...
pengaru 3y ago
My impression is that finishes free of petroleum products have become somewhat of a niche cottage industry these days. So I wouldn't assume anything acquired finished by someone else is free of such things, regardless of whatever once-precise names they used to describe the finish. Even when you try DIY-finish something with an eye towards food-safety it's rather challenging. E.g. the "Boiled Linseed Oil" you find on store shelves isn't actually boiled linseed oil, it's usually been adulterated with petroleum distillates and sometimes toxic "dryers" (cobalt comes to mind) to achieve the results boiling used to serve. Here in CA the once common Turpentine which is literally distilled pine trees can't even be sold to the public due to VOCs. The stocked replacements are mostly petroleum distillates, labeled as known to cause cancer in the state. The oil industry has infected everything
- autoexec 3y ago
  Why would oil companies dispose of their toxic byproducts when they can sell them to companies who will poison the public with them? Since it makes them money and there's zero risk of legal repercussions for it, the only thing that would stop them is having morals and the oil industry certainly isn't burdened with those.
  - NoZebra120vClip 3y ago
    This transitive logic applies to chemical companies and pharmaceuticals, more than anyone realizes.
hinkley 3y ago
That resin comes from a tree that is the source of the name for urishiol - the chemical that makes poison ivy such a nasty experience. It's probably better than plastic, but remember that coral snake venom and puffer fish toxin are 'all natural' and so the concept of all natural is utter and complete bullshit.