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I have to try it out to see whether it's worth it. But since the display can be fairly low-resolution, I don't except that it adds a lot of cost. Weight would b

I have to try it out to see whether it's worth it. But since the display can be fairly low-resolution, I don't except that it adds a lot of cost. Weight would be a bigger concern to me..

mickdarling 3y ago
My concern is primarily power draw. For a device with only a 2 hour battery, every erg matters.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  It uses slow refresh like new iphones
- Geee 3y ago
  It's not on all the time. Only when you interact with people.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    Hm, doesn't it use the outward-facing display at all times, to display your status (whether you're fully immersed, are able to see others, or are recording a video, etc.?) I'm sure there's more processing required to show the eyes, but it's still illuminating the display when it's showing these other states. These could be done via simple LED indicators, saving some energy.
    - ricardobeat 3y ago
      Considering the amount of processing, rendering, sensors, eye tracking and 10x higher resolution displays all happening inside the headset, it's unlikely that the external display consumes enough power to affect battery life significantly. It would probably only save a few minutes at most.
- dangus 3y ago
  While the displays are significant areas of power draw, for this product I don't think they're the low-hanging fruit. This is a device that's performing a whole bunch of computation in real time: video, lidar, infrared, eye tracking, and then it has to drive two 4K+ displays, one for each eye, with 3D-accelerated content being rendered at all times. Go to an AR web page on your phone and start playing around with 3D objects in your space and you'll notice your phone getting significantly warmer and drawing more power. The Vision Pro is doing this literally all the time. Also, the camera and sensor work that is tracking your eyes has to happen whether or not there is an outward-facing display. Apple makes a watch with a display that is always on, and their phones have high resolution OLEDs that can stay on for over 13 hours (iPhone 14 Pro Max 150 nits brightness doing continuous 5G web browsing).
dangus 3y ago
How heavy is an OLED panel? Isn't it like a piece of flexible plastic? Early reviewers seem to say that the metal construction of the Vision Pro seems to be contributing a lot to its weight. Most other headsets are all plastic.

I have to try it out to see whether it's worth it. But since the display can be fairly low-resolution, I don't except that it adds a lot of cost. Weight would be a bigger concern to me..

mickdarling 3y ago

My concern is primarily power draw. For a device with only a 2 hour battery, every erg matters.

wahnfrieden 3y ago
It uses slow refresh like new iphones
Geee 3y ago
It's not on all the time. Only when you interact with people.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  Hm, doesn't it use the outward-facing display at all times, to display your status (whether you're fully immersed, are able to see others, or are recording a video, etc.?) I'm sure there's more processing required to show the eyes, but it's still illuminating the display when it's showing these other states. These could be done via simple LED indicators, saving some energy.
  - ricardobeat 3y ago
    Considering the amount of processing, rendering, sensors, eye tracking and 10x higher resolution displays all happening inside the headset, it's unlikely that the external display consumes enough power to affect battery life significantly. It would probably only save a few minutes at most.
dangus 3y ago
While the displays are significant areas of power draw, for this product I don't think they're the low-hanging fruit. This is a device that's performing a whole bunch of computation in real time: video, lidar, infrared, eye tracking, and then it has to drive two 4K+ displays, one for each eye, with 3D-accelerated content being rendered at all times. Go to an AR web page on your phone and start playing around with 3D objects in your space and you'll notice your phone getting significantly warmer and drawing more power. The Vision Pro is doing this literally all the time. Also, the camera and sensor work that is tracking your eyes has to happen whether or not there is an outward-facing display. Apple makes a watch with a display that is always on, and their phones have high resolution OLEDs that can stay on for over 13 hours (iPhone 14 Pro Max 150 nits brightness doing continuous 5G web browsing).

dangus 3y ago

How heavy is an OLED panel? Isn't it like a piece of flexible plastic? Early reviewers seem to say that the metal construction of the Vision Pro seems to be contributing a lot to its weight. Most other headsets are all plastic.