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What I'm saying is that I believe more people will choose to do what we are doing, because the alternative (playing the rigged game) makes less sense every year

by grecy 3y ago

What I'm saying is that I believe more people will choose to do what we are doing, because the alternative (playing the rigged game) makes less sense every year. If it requires going to work for more than your entire life to pay for a house, people will stop buying houses, etc.

jacquesm 3y ago
People in general have far less choice in this than is probably desirable. They tend to have normal lives, with normal friends and normal jobs and as a result they lose their ability to make such choices. The game is utterly rigged but there isn't a whole lot you can do about it if you are trying to make ends meet with a family. In my family I'm the lucky one, I can pretty much live in any way that I want. But the rule is that the job cycle pretty much dictates how much freedom you've got. The financial stakes are balanced in such a way that you're likely in the tredmill for life unless you get very lucky. The big problem is that there are so many little races to the bottom that if you're not very careful you will end up participating in one or more of these effectively reducing the negotiation power of others and time shifted with yourself. Unionization is one way to solve some aspects of this (though not all and some unions have their own issues that then become dominant). Alternatively you can go it alone but that kind of risk taking isn't for everybody either. I don't think homesteading or opting out is going to be a big driver, it would be nice if it were but I just don't see it happening. What you will see is an increase in mental issues, homelessness, personal bankruptcies and more like that. Those are the indicators that things are really not going well. But many people don't care about these things until it hits them personally.
- grecy 3y ago
  > The game is utterly rigged but there isn't a whole lot you can do about it if you are trying to make ends meet with a family. I disagree there isn't a whole lot you can do, and I'm saying I know plenty of people doing it. I have multiple friends that used to be Engineers and Doctors and Architects, and now just ski 100+ days in the winter and mountain bike 100+ days in the summer. These people are in their 30s. They don't want to work much anymore, so they just live cheaply and don't play the rigged game.

by grecy 3y ago

jacquesm 3y ago

People in general have far less choice in this than is probably desirable. They tend to have normal lives, with normal friends and normal jobs and as a result they lose their ability to make such choices. The game is utterly rigged but there isn't a whole lot you can do about it if you are trying to make ends meet with a family. In my family I'm the lucky one, I can pretty much live in any way that I want. But the rule is that the job cycle pretty much dictates how much freedom you've got. The financial stakes are balanced in such a way that you're likely in the tredmill for life unless you get very lucky. The big problem is that there are so many little races to the bottom that if you're not very careful you will end up participating in one or more of these effectively reducing the negotiation power of others and time shifted with yourself. Unionization is one way to solve some aspects of this (though not all and some unions have their own issues that then become dominant). Alternatively you can go it alone but that kind of risk taking isn't for everybody either. I don't think homesteading or opting out is going to be a big driver, it would be nice if it were but I just don't see it happening. What you will see is an increase in mental issues, homelessness, personal bankruptcies and more like that. Those are the indicators that things are really not going well. But many people don't care about these things until it hits them personally.

grecy 3y ago
> The game is utterly rigged but there isn't a whole lot you can do about it if you are trying to make ends meet with a family. I disagree there isn't a whole lot you can do, and I'm saying I know plenty of people doing it. I have multiple friends that used to be Engineers and Doctors and Architects, and now just ski 100+ days in the winter and mountain bike 100+ days in the summer. These people are in their 30s. They don't want to work much anymore, so they just live cheaply and don't play the rigged game.