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> "... or if you have kids giving up your car is enormously inconvenient." > "Yes, you can teach your kids to ride, but cycling is still much more dangerous th
by daneel_w 3y ago
> "... or if you have kids giving up your car is enormously inconvenient."
> "Yes, you can teach your kids to ride, but cycling is still much more dangerous than driving."
> "Yes, you can rent a car or get an uber as needed, but it’s far more convenient to just jump in one’s own car."
> "Yes, you can prepare for really cold or precipitous weather to a degree, but it’s way more convenient to simply not have to monitor the weather all the time and tote around your extra cycling clothes."
> "And there’s really nothing you can do about hot weather unless your destination has a shower or you can otherwise make do with being sweaty."
> "The best I can realistically do is family car + bike."
I don't think I've ever seen or heard anyone before portraying the weather and transporting oneself without a car as such an ordeal and struggle. Though, if you life well outside the city I can understand the position.
When I grew up (in what was then a ~230k pop. city) only one single kid in my class had parents that cared about having a car, and all of us managed just fine getting to and from school, friends and various activities by foot, bicycle and public transport. We survived, and we turned out OK - perhaps more than OK, with a bit of the fortitude of not expecting or requiring constant conveniences or suffering the perspective that any transport without car is "enormously inconvenient".
- throwaway894345 3y ago> I don't think I've ever seen or heard anyone before portraying the weather and transporting oneself without a car as such an ordeal and struggle. Though, if you life well outside the city I can understand the position. You probably live in a pretty mild climate. In my part of the planet, temperatures range from -20F to 110F and we get a decent amount of precipitation. Moreover, the average commute exceeds 10 miles, and low population density means public transit options are at best poor but more likely nonexistent. Interestingly, even in countries famous for their cycling infrastructure, car ownership (and average car weight) is increasing. It seems it's hard to beat the convenience of driving. E.g.: * Netherlands: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358798695_The_widespread_car_ownership_in_the_Netherlands https://www.researchgate.net/publication/358798695_The_wides... * Denmark: https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/portalfiles/portal/234032816/ELISA_project_Analysis_and_prediction_of_private_car_ownership_and_use_in_Denmark_final_report.pdf https://backend.orbit.dtu.dk/ws/portalfiles/portal/234032816...