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Right, but you are intentionally ignoring the context, intentionally misinterpreting the claim, and being pedantic. It's so lazy and dishonest to do a super li

Right, but you are intentionally ignoring the context, intentionally misinterpreting the claim, and being pedantic. It's so lazy and dishonest to do a super literal close reading of what someone says and then debunk that. Your teachers failed you. It's completely obvious that OP meant that otherwise healthy people aren't starving to death. That used to be common, millions of otherwise healthy people died in famines in Ireland and Ukraine and China not so long ago. People that were healthy couldn't find a way to get their hands on enough calories and they wasted away and died, and their children wasted away and died, gradually over months. That literally doesn't happen in the US and hasn't for a long long time, and if you are claiming it does you live in a land of make believe.

ceejayoz 3y ago
> People that were healthy couldn't find a way to get their hands on enough calories... That sure sounds like the "low-income, homebound, or without reliable access to healthy food" bit from my quote. > It's completely obvious that OP meant that otherwise healthy people aren't starving to death. The chances of zero people having done that in a country of 330 million people "in decades", as asserted, is quite slim. https://www.mtshastanews.com/story/news/2021/02/05/living-and-dying-streets-san-francisco-how-scion-prominent-family-fell-through-cracks/4396680001/ https://www.mtshastanews.com/story/news/2021/02/05/living-an... is a case of a physically healthy man starving to death in SF. https://www.newsweek.com/2023/01/20/starved-death-american-jail-man-who-couldnt-pay-100-bail-1773459.html https://www.newsweek.com/2023/01/20/starved-death-american-j... is a case of someone starving to death in jail for want of $100 bail. I rather suspect other examples can be found.
- valval 3y ago
  I suppose it's a matter of definition for the word "involuntary" at this point. What I mean is that everyone who is willing and able will have enough food stamps to get enough nutrition for the month - no matter your living situation. Like the parent said, you seem to be disputing my original claim out of spite and in bad faith.

ceejayoz 3y ago

> People that were healthy couldn't find a way to get their hands on enough calories... That sure sounds like the "low-income, homebound, or without reliable access to healthy food" bit from my quote. > It's completely obvious that OP meant that otherwise healthy people aren't starving to death. The chances of zero people having done that in a country of 330 million people "in decades", as asserted, is quite slim. https://www.mtshastanews.com/story/news/2021/02/05/living-and-dying-streets-san-francisco-how-scion-prominent-family-fell-through-cracks/4396680001/ https://www.mtshastanews.com/story/news/2021/02/05/living-an... is a case of a physically healthy man starving to death in SF. https://www.newsweek.com/2023/01/20/starved-death-american-jail-man-who-couldnt-pay-100-bail-1773459.html https://www.newsweek.com/2023/01/20/starved-death-american-j... is a case of someone starving to death in jail for want of $100 bail. I rather suspect other examples can be found.

valval 3y ago
I suppose it's a matter of definition for the word "involuntary" at this point. What I mean is that everyone who is willing and able will have enough food stamps to get enough nutrition for the month - no matter your living situation. Like the parent said, you seem to be disputing my original claim out of spite and in bad faith.