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> It doesn't look or feel the same to me. I used to be in this camp before branching out and trying some different LEDs. Unless it is literally the glowing fil

> It doesn't look or feel the same to me. I used to be in this camp before branching out and trying some different LEDs. Unless it is literally the glowing filament that you like looking at, which is reasonable, you can definitely find a bulb that looks and feels the same. That was my point in repeating myself saying that it 100% exists. If you’re not in a place to financially experiment with a few bulbs that’s different. Stating that LEDs can’t produce the color you want is wrong. I would go as far as to say that you can find an LED that produces a color you prefer over incandescent.

twoodfin 3y ago
What’s your recommendation for a quality sub-2700K bulb?
- comfypotato 3y ago
  I settled on an adjustable-temperature/brightness standing lamp. I don’t know the model, sorry. Being able to change the color/brightness on a spectrum is very nice. Planning to buy some e26 bulbs that connect to Apple’s home automation. It’ll be the same process of buying all the popular models on Amazon that have fully adjustable color/brightness and settling on what I like best.
_yb2s 3y ago
It just seems like a solution looking for a problem... incandescent lights are exactly the perfect solution for my use case, I am completely happy with them. The whole problem LED bulb mandates are trying to solve is mostly a problem of unnecessary and excessive lighting which is causing tons of light pollution, interrupting peoples circadian rhythm, etc. If people used a very dim light near their body just between sunset and sleep it wouldn't matter much how efficient it is. Brightly lighting up our cities and houses is totally unnecessary and terrible for us, and terrible for the planet regardless of how efficient and cheap we can make it. It lowers quality of life for us, and other animals affected by the light pollution. I would have no problem affording LED lights I don't want, but cannot afford to move someplace with enough land to escape the neighbors light pollution from their cheap LEDs... which makes it harder to sleep, impossible to enjoy the stars, etc.
- comfypotato 3y ago
  Noises of crotchety old fart grumbling in the distance
- santoshalper 3y ago
  No, the problem they are trying to solve is not light pollution, it is that incandescent bulbs use several times as much electricity as LEDs.
  - _yb2s 3y ago
    Making it more efficient just means people will think even less before brightly lighting things up all night long that either don’t need lighting at all or don’t need it so bright. LEDs are so efficient and cheap that the result is massive light pollution. The solution to energy waste is to make light dimmer and more localized.
    - thehappypm 3y ago
      That would be the case if LEDs weren’t so, so much more efficient. Like 5x more efficient, easily.
      - Syonyk 3y ago
        5-6x, yes. And I can't help but think my neighbor with literally hundreds of watts of LED bulbs around the outside of their house might not decide to light the night quite as often if they were all incandescents. I can read a newspaper by their lights, which aren't even aimed at me, about 3/8 mile away. It's absurd.
- tourmalinetaco 3y ago
  I live in a village of <100 people and its almost impossible to see the stars here. I can make out planets/brighter stars but most dim stars are obscured. We don’t even produce a whole lot of light pollution by ourselves, it’s mostly from nearby towns. And it’s only gotten worse in recent years. I genuinely hate it.

twoodfin 3y ago

What’s your recommendation for a quality sub-2700K bulb?

comfypotato 3y ago
I settled on an adjustable-temperature/brightness standing lamp. I don’t know the model, sorry. Being able to change the color/brightness on a spectrum is very nice. Planning to buy some e26 bulbs that connect to Apple’s home automation. It’ll be the same process of buying all the popular models on Amazon that have fully adjustable color/brightness and settling on what I like best.

_yb2s 3y ago

It just seems like a solution looking for a problem... incandescent lights are exactly the perfect solution for my use case, I am completely happy with them. The whole problem LED bulb mandates are trying to solve is mostly a problem of unnecessary and excessive lighting which is causing tons of light pollution, interrupting peoples circadian rhythm, etc. If people used a very dim light near their body just between sunset and sleep it wouldn't matter much how efficient it is. Brightly lighting up our cities and houses is totally unnecessary and terrible for us, and terrible for the planet regardless of how efficient and cheap we can make it. It lowers quality of life for us, and other animals affected by the light pollution. I would have no problem affording LED lights I don't want, but cannot afford to move someplace with enough land to escape the neighbors light pollution from their cheap LEDs... which makes it harder to sleep, impossible to enjoy the stars, etc.

comfypotato 3y ago
Noises of crotchety old fart grumbling in the distance
santoshalper 3y ago
No, the problem they are trying to solve is not light pollution, it is that incandescent bulbs use several times as much electricity as LEDs.
- _yb2s 3y ago
  Making it more efficient just means people will think even less before brightly lighting things up all night long that either don’t need lighting at all or don’t need it so bright. LEDs are so efficient and cheap that the result is massive light pollution. The solution to energy waste is to make light dimmer and more localized.
  - thehappypm 3y ago
    That would be the case if LEDs weren’t so, so much more efficient. Like 5x more efficient, easily.
    - Syonyk 3y ago
      5-6x, yes. And I can't help but think my neighbor with literally hundreds of watts of LED bulbs around the outside of their house might not decide to light the night quite as often if they were all incandescents. I can read a newspaper by their lights, which aren't even aimed at me, about 3/8 mile away. It's absurd.
tourmalinetaco 3y ago
I live in a village of <100 people and its almost impossible to see the stars here. I can make out planets/brighter stars but most dim stars are obscured. We don’t even produce a whole lot of light pollution by ourselves, it’s mostly from nearby towns. And it’s only gotten worse in recent years. I genuinely hate it.