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Someone here in HN recommended Consent-O-Matic instead of I don’t care about cookies. Said “I do t care about cookies is the extension advertisers want you to i

Someone here in HN recommended Consent-O-Matic instead of I don’t care about cookies. Said “I do t care about cookies is the extension advertisers want you to install” :) apparently it just says yes to everything. Consent-O-Matic specifically configures things to share the least amount of information possible.

mcmcmc 3y ago
With a name like "I don't care about cookies" it does kind of make sense that it would just auto-accept everything. After all, they don't care about cookies
londons_explore 3y ago
Sites work much better if you just say yes to everything. Devs never test the 'no' path as well, and half the time you'll find embedded videos/maps/tweets won't display or are buggy. Since I care about a fast efficient web experience far more than I care about leaving digital footprints around, I choose the extension that says yes to everything.
- bmacho 3y ago
  I don't think I've ever seen a website that broke when I clicked "decline", or "disable all+save". (Yes, I manually click or click click for every website. Also I don't think that EU "broke the internet", rather they made me painfully aware that every f.in website uses cookies and other tracking methods just to give my browsing history to ~300 total random company for no reason.)
- rossjudson 3y ago
  I'm more or less in your camp. I really don't care about "saying no to cookies" because I don't believe that sites will implement no properly anyway. I'd much rather be relying on the clear (hopefully!) lines being drawn by my browser and its settings. Asking me if I'd like to allow various cookies is by far the least important part of the problem. Relying in the cooperative efforts of site owners? Really?
  - account42 3y ago
    This kind of defeatist attitude is exactly why we can't have nice things. The overton window is a thing. Pushing back matters.
- chillbill 3y ago
  Inaccurate
- legitster 3y ago
  > Devs never test the 'no' path as well It's not just that - some services are literally unrenderable without cookies! (Fewer these days at least).
  - loloquwowndueo 3y ago
    Consent-O-Matic does not reject all cookies - it responds intelligently and automatically to the cookie consent dialogs and selects only essential cookies. If someone says a cookie is non-essential and rejecting it results in their site not working that’s on them - a human might manually choose to reject it, it’d be the same end result.
- wavesounds 3y ago
  Well if "no" becomes the default then I'm sure engineers would switch over to testing that path more frequently instead
- George83728 3y ago
  Why answer the question at all? I use uBlock Origin's cosmetic filters to simply delete the prompt from the page. I nether accept nor decline, and I've never run into problems with this.
  - avnigo 3y ago
    I've had no luck blocking YouTube's consent popup with uBlock Origin. From what I remember, it would randomize the element ID and also add a load delay, and if you managed to block it, it would block comments from loading or break scroll etc. With Consent-O-Matic, it works just fine.
  - toxicFork 3y ago
    Some websites block interaction until the pop-up is dismissed
    - jay3ss 3y ago
      In that case I usually just leave if it's not a site I absolutely have to use
    - George83728 3y ago
      As far as I've seen, they all do this using a transparent element placed over the page.. which I filter away.
  - Liskni_si 3y ago
    Have you ever tried booking flights with EasyJet? Their web servers would just literally stop sending you TCP packets once they see a session cookie that hasn't accepted the cookie consent within a minute or so. Took me a while to figure this out, and until I realised it's caused by me not seeing the cookie consent modal, my workflow was to clear cookies and then try to book the flight within 60 seconds. :-D
DerekBickerton 3y ago
Links for Consent-O-Matic if anyone wants to take a look: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... (Firefox) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/consent-o-matic/mdjildafknihdffpkfmmpnpoiajfjnjd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/consent-o-matic/md... (Chrome) https://consentomatic.au.dk/ https://consentomatic.au.dk/ (Official site)
BaseballPhysics 3y ago
Better to just start using Firefox multi-account containers. An add-on like I Still Don't Care About Cookies ensures you aren't bothered by the popups, and temporary containers are wiped upon tab closure so anything those sites leave behind is automatically deleted.
- account42 3y ago
  Reminder that consent applies not just to cookies but to all kinds of tracking, inluding fingerprinting and server-side techniques.
bluGill 3y ago
I just hit control-w when i see a consent dialog. It is rare that anyone is really important enough that i'd do more.
ornornor 3y ago
I found using Firefox containers (new tabs get new empty containers, sites I use often get their own separate containers but always the same ones so I don’t have to login every time) + ublock origin means that accepting cookies doesn’t matter as much anymore. Because once I close the tab, the container is destroyed and so are the cookies, and the various ad and analytics servers were not getting data anyway because uBo was blocking them.

mcmcmc 3y ago

With a name like "I don't care about cookies" it does kind of make sense that it would just auto-accept everything. After all, they don't care about cookies

londons_explore 3y ago

Sites work much better if you just say yes to everything. Devs never test the 'no' path as well, and half the time you'll find embedded videos/maps/tweets won't display or are buggy. Since I care about a fast efficient web experience far more than I care about leaving digital footprints around, I choose the extension that says yes to everything.

bmacho 3y ago
I don't think I've ever seen a website that broke when I clicked "decline", or "disable all+save". (Yes, I manually click or click click for every website. Also I don't think that EU "broke the internet", rather they made me painfully aware that every f.in website uses cookies and other tracking methods just to give my browsing history to ~300 total random company for no reason.)
rossjudson 3y ago
I'm more or less in your camp. I really don't care about "saying no to cookies" because I don't believe that sites will implement no properly anyway. I'd much rather be relying on the clear (hopefully!) lines being drawn by my browser and its settings. Asking me if I'd like to allow various cookies is by far the least important part of the problem. Relying in the cooperative efforts of site owners? Really?
- account42 3y ago
  This kind of defeatist attitude is exactly why we can't have nice things. The overton window is a thing. Pushing back matters.
chillbill 3y ago
Inaccurate
legitster 3y ago
> Devs never test the 'no' path as well It's not just that - some services are literally unrenderable without cookies! (Fewer these days at least).
- loloquwowndueo 3y ago
  Consent-O-Matic does not reject all cookies - it responds intelligently and automatically to the cookie consent dialogs and selects only essential cookies. If someone says a cookie is non-essential and rejecting it results in their site not working that’s on them - a human might manually choose to reject it, it’d be the same end result.
wavesounds 3y ago
Well if "no" becomes the default then I'm sure engineers would switch over to testing that path more frequently instead
George83728 3y ago
Why answer the question at all? I use uBlock Origin's cosmetic filters to simply delete the prompt from the page. I nether accept nor decline, and I've never run into problems with this.
- avnigo 3y ago
  I've had no luck blocking YouTube's consent popup with uBlock Origin. From what I remember, it would randomize the element ID and also add a load delay, and if you managed to block it, it would block comments from loading or break scroll etc. With Consent-O-Matic, it works just fine.
- toxicFork 3y ago
  Some websites block interaction until the pop-up is dismissed
  - jay3ss 3y ago
    In that case I usually just leave if it's not a site I absolutely have to use
  - George83728 3y ago
    As far as I've seen, they all do this using a transparent element placed over the page.. which I filter away.
- Liskni_si 3y ago
  Have you ever tried booking flights with EasyJet? Their web servers would just literally stop sending you TCP packets once they see a session cookie that hasn't accepted the cookie consent within a minute or so. Took me a while to figure this out, and until I realised it's caused by me not seeing the cookie consent modal, my workflow was to clear cookies and then try to book the flight within 60 seconds. :-D

DerekBickerton 3y ago

Links for Consent-O-Matic if anyone wants to take a look: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-matic/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat... (Firefox) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/consent-o-matic/mdjildafknihdffpkfmmpnpoiajfjnjd https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/consent-o-matic/md... (Chrome) https://consentomatic.au.dk/ https://consentomatic.au.dk/ (Official site)

BaseballPhysics 3y ago

Better to just start using Firefox multi-account containers. An add-on like I Still Don't Care About Cookies ensures you aren't bothered by the popups, and temporary containers are wiped upon tab closure so anything those sites leave behind is automatically deleted.

account42 3y ago
Reminder that consent applies not just to cookies but to all kinds of tracking, inluding fingerprinting and server-side techniques.

bluGill 3y ago

I just hit control-w when i see a consent dialog. It is rare that anyone is really important enough that i'd do more.

ornornor 3y ago

I found using Firefox containers (new tabs get new empty containers, sites I use often get their own separate containers but always the same ones so I don’t have to login every time) + ublock origin means that accepting cookies doesn’t matter as much anymore. Because once I close the tab, the container is destroyed and so are the cookies, and the various ad and analytics servers were not getting data anyway because uBo was blocking them.