6 ms·

So if reddit's official app is difficult to use, at what point can regular 3rd party apps claim to be accessibility tools?

cwkoss 3y ago
Society needs 'allergic to UX dark patterns' to be included in the next DSM
- nerpderp82 3y ago
  There needs to be a preferences setting sent in the HTTP header to activate high contrast and low motion modes. Just having "dark mode" is not enough.
  - chaosharmonic 3y ago
    Would high contrast not be a CSS thing? I know `prefers-reduced-motion` is...
    - notatoad 3y ago
      yes, high-contrast is a CSS media query just like prefers-reduced-motion is
      - extra88 3y ago
        * prefers-contrast: more
  - digging 3y ago
    I agree, but I think you misread the comment you're replying to. They were referring to "dark patterns," a design feature used to trick users into taking actions they otherwise wouldn't. Much harder to flag :P
    - nerpderp82 3y ago
      Sorry, I want all dark patterns to be surrounded by a high contrast "dark pattern border".
      - digging 3y ago
        this is what the internet was meant to be
- MrStonedOne 3y ago
  Some of those UX dark patterns would qualify as making the site inaccessible to people with add and adhd, others make it inaccessible to people with autism. engagement driving bullshit could very easy become banned under ADA if the right public servant gave it enough thought.
  - digging 3y ago
    I actually completely agree with this, but I didn't bring that up specifically because, as an autistic person with ADHD, I have gotten pretty poor responses in the past from saying my needs should be considered by UI/UX designers. There's not a lot of public will to consider autism and ADHD to be "real" disabilities and I'd love to see that change.
hoherd 3y ago
It sounds like being accessibility tools wouldn't be enough because they would also need to be non-commercial, which excludes most of (all of?) the popular third party apps.
- goda90 3y ago
  RedReader is entirely open source and has accessibility features.

cwkoss 3y ago

Society needs 'allergic to UX dark patterns' to be included in the next DSM

nerpderp82 3y ago
There needs to be a preferences setting sent in the HTTP header to activate high contrast and low motion modes. Just having "dark mode" is not enough.
- chaosharmonic 3y ago
  Would high contrast not be a CSS thing? I know `prefers-reduced-motion` is...
  - notatoad 3y ago
    yes, high-contrast is a CSS media query just like prefers-reduced-motion is
    - extra88 3y ago
      * prefers-contrast: more
- digging 3y ago
  I agree, but I think you misread the comment you're replying to. They were referring to "dark patterns," a design feature used to trick users into taking actions they otherwise wouldn't. Much harder to flag :P
  - nerpderp82 3y ago
    Sorry, I want all dark patterns to be surrounded by a high contrast "dark pattern border".
    - digging 3y ago
      this is what the internet was meant to be
MrStonedOne 3y ago
Some of those UX dark patterns would qualify as making the site inaccessible to people with add and adhd, others make it inaccessible to people with autism. engagement driving bullshit could very easy become banned under ADA if the right public servant gave it enough thought.
- digging 3y ago
  I actually completely agree with this, but I didn't bring that up specifically because, as an autistic person with ADHD, I have gotten pretty poor responses in the past from saying my needs should be considered by UI/UX designers. There's not a lot of public will to consider autism and ADHD to be "real" disabilities and I'd love to see that change.

hoherd 3y ago

It sounds like being accessibility tools wouldn't be enough because they would also need to be non-commercial, which excludes most of (all of?) the popular third party apps.

goda90 3y ago
RedReader is entirely open source and has accessibility features.