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You can't just claim that without knowing the context. Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't d
by anaganisk 3y ago
You can't just claim that without knowing the context.
Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't deploy code evade referrer for that site particularly. C'mon we aren't talking about using a VPN to evade a region block, it's one website abusing their referrer tags against another.
- josephcsible 3y ago> Also I think, if some website doesn't want you to link to it, and politely redirects you. You shouldn't deploy code evade referrer for that site particularly. Why? You don't have a right to not be talked about.
- anaganisk 3y agoWhen did I ever say that, HN is free to talk about them, but they don't want you to visit them. And I think it's up to them to choose with whom they want to interact.
- rascul 3y ago> and politely redirects you. I never got the redirect here but from what I understand about it, it is absolutely not polite in my opinion to redirect from an Asahi Linux blog to Google because I happened to find the blog post on Hacker News. In fact, it's quite rude.
- anaganisk 3y agoIf someone doesn't want you to come into their house, even if you found the address through a friend it's not rude. They neither are scolding you nor berating you like certain websites that are linked from HN. They just redirect you to Google, from where you can still visit the site. They don't want direct links, that's it.
- rascul 3y agoI don't buy the website equals house analogy. But if I did, redirecting to Google is like sending me to the landfill instead of locking the door and putting up a sign.
- anaganisk 3y agoSending to Google is, asking you to go back to the road most info is accessed from Google, it's not a landfill, they're not sending you to some random troll website hosted on tor. They don't want interactions with HN plain and simple. It's up to them to choose how or on what parameters to deny your access, at least they did their part gracefully. But adding explicit evasion techniques for a particular site, is not at all graceful. HN is a discussion forum, not an archive or search engine or content repository, it seems funny for it to add explicit techniques to allow its users to evade restrictions.
- rascul 3y ago> They don't want interactions with HN plain and simple. Fine. So put up a page saying that. Don't instead send me to some privacy invasive and user hostile third party such as Google.
- anaganisk 3y agoOk, I finally see you what you meant by landfill, I mean Google is synonymous with search, for anyone. How many on HN think of Google as privacy invasive and hostile, yet use it as primary search engine? They literally redirected you to the internet's search page for general public. Your opinion is very subjective if you consider redirecting to Google is correct or not. The original argument of mine was, why should HN implement code explicitly for a target website, that is blocking it? Do they do the same for region locked content websites/pay walled sites, no? Then this is not correct.
- jpambrun 3y agoYou have no business being on the internet if you don't want to be linked to. I can't believe I have to type this out..
- ubermonkey 3y agoWhat you CAN do and what you SHOULD do are often different things, and that difference is something that the HN crowd would do well to reflect on. Asahi doesn't want attention from HN. It's a small project about hardware that most HN commenters seem to hold in contempt anyway. Why not just honor the request?
- analognoise 3y agoContempt? I've seen nothing but praise about the Asahi from HN. Its also the only place I've ever heard people talk about it.
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- anaganisk 3y agoCool let's shutdown all the filters for spam, adblockers etc