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Saw a comment that goes beyond parroting that hoary cliche https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 > But t

Saw a comment that goes beyond parroting that hoary cliche https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210815 > But the iPod was also not 10x the price of the Nomad. The iPod also had essentially the same feature set. Here the Vision Pro is undoubtedly better in ways like the screen but also seems to be lacking support for VR controllers. Right now VR gaming is pretty much the main reason VR exists.

scarface_74 3y ago
And before the iPhone, making calls was the major reason for buying phones. Before the Apple Watch, telling time was the major reason for people buying Watches. Do you think Apple has no plans on ever selling a cheaper version? Has the techno geek crowd ever been right about Apple?
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  How much cheaper will the cheap version be relative to the Pro? 8x more than the competition? 5x? It’s fine to believe that there everything will work out somehow, as things are wont to do, but don’t pretend you know how it will more than the average layman. Let the miracle unfold on its own.
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    The average selling price of an iPhone is 3x - 4x that of an Android. I think iPhones are doing pretty well. The ASP of Macs are also higher. Apple hasn’t competed on price - ever. I know the HN crowd has an income that skews higher than most. Why is it so crazy to think that there might be people in the world that will drop $3800 on something because they can? I can imagine some of my coworkers (and maybe even myself) take a small percent of our stock vest when it comes and buy it just because it’s a fun toy?
    - Apocryphon 3y ago
      Nice, numbers smaller than the ones I hypothesized. Apple doesn’t compete on price, but it’s the difference between the next iPhone or the next Mac Studio. So will the Vision Pro be a pilot device for a segment specific to that minority of affluent upper-earners as a fun toy? Or is it really meant to bring AR/VR to the masses and fundamentally transform computing as we know it?
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        If it’s next Mac Studio, why is that a bad thing? The Macs market share is next to nothing worldwide. At a worldwide scale, the iPhone is a device for a minority of affluent upper earners as a toy. The iPhone only has around a 15% share worldwide.

scarface_74 3y ago

And before the iPhone, making calls was the major reason for buying phones. Before the Apple Watch, telling time was the major reason for people buying Watches. Do you think Apple has no plans on ever selling a cheaper version? Has the techno geek crowd ever been right about Apple?

Apocryphon 3y ago
How much cheaper will the cheap version be relative to the Pro? 8x more than the competition? 5x? It’s fine to believe that there everything will work out somehow, as things are wont to do, but don’t pretend you know how it will more than the average layman. Let the miracle unfold on its own.
- scarface_74 3y ago
  The average selling price of an iPhone is 3x - 4x that of an Android. I think iPhones are doing pretty well. The ASP of Macs are also higher. Apple hasn’t competed on price - ever. I know the HN crowd has an income that skews higher than most. Why is it so crazy to think that there might be people in the world that will drop $3800 on something because they can? I can imagine some of my coworkers (and maybe even myself) take a small percent of our stock vest when it comes and buy it just because it’s a fun toy?
  - Apocryphon 3y ago
    Nice, numbers smaller than the ones I hypothesized. Apple doesn’t compete on price, but it’s the difference between the next iPhone or the next Mac Studio. So will the Vision Pro be a pilot device for a segment specific to that minority of affluent upper-earners as a fun toy? Or is it really meant to bring AR/VR to the masses and fundamentally transform computing as we know it?
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      If it’s next Mac Studio, why is that a bad thing? The Macs market share is next to nothing worldwide. At a worldwide scale, the iPhone is a device for a minority of affluent upper earners as a toy. The iPhone only has around a 15% share worldwide.