https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 you agreed abuse is immoral and unethical, so clearly nothing is bei

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 you agreed abuse is immoral and unethical, so clearly nothing is being "conflated" except in your own mind. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36210181 is where debok says they are okay with all immoral and unethical behaviour in their family members, and that includes abuse since we both agree that abuse is (one of many things that is) immoral or unethical. Now you bring up this idea https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36214514 that I must mean that "that abuse is the only (or even primary) thing that a kid could conceivably complain is immoral or unethical" but that's definitely not what I'm talking about; I'm saying a kid could complain about abuse, and debok says they would still maintain a relationship with that abuser because they are their parents, and that is what I think is wrong and that what you replied to. Maybe you didn't know before but now you do, and as you persist, I think it is a kindness to say you're only trying to change the subject, instead of what I really think.