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I’d love to use Bard but I can’t because my Google account uses a custom domain through Google Workspaces or whatever the hell its called. I love being punished
by wilg 3y ago
I’d love to use Bard but I can’t because my Google account uses a custom domain through Google Workspaces or whatever the hell its called. I love being punished by Google for using their other products.
- eitally 3y agoWhy not just create a consumer google account for purposes like this?
- wilg 3y agoI just don’t want to manage switching accounts or profiles or whatever, plus I’m salty about it, plus people think it’s the runner-up so I’ll use ChatGPT for now.
- whateverman23 3y agoIt's like... a drop down, though.
- wilg 3y agoA man has a code.
- marban 3y agoappend ?authuser=myconsumeremail@gmail.com to the url and you're in w/o switching
- jonny_eh 3y agoor stick /u/1/… in the root of the path (where the 1 is the index of the currently signed in account)
- jsheard 3y agoThis has been an issue for so long, why don't they just let you attach a custom domain to a normal account? Paywall it behind the Google One subscription if you must, it would still be an improvement over having to deal with the needlessly bloated admin interface (for single-user purposes) and randomly being locked out of features that haven't been cleared as "business ready" yet.
- wilg 3y agoYeah it’s wild. Overcharging people for a custom Gmail domain seems like a really nice little revenue stream.
- THENATHE 3y agoYou can now use cloud flare and “send as” to perfectly mimic a custom domain without upgrading to workspace
- jsheard 3y agoIs it possible to set up DKIM correctly with that arrangement so you don't get penalized by spam filters?
- THENATHE 3y agoI believe so, I haven’t had any issues at all. I use my email for my business and personal and in all the dealings I’ve done with different providers, none have ever marked me spam. I also have a very spam-looking domain so I might have a better than average say on it.
- Keyframe 3y agoI'd love to give it a try as well (as a paying OpenAI customer, and as a paying Google customer). It seems European Union isn't good enough of a market to launch it for Google. Google just doesn't have resources OpenAI has, it seems.
- fooker 3y agoSome EU countries love extracting billions in fines from large tech companies, warranted or not. It's not surprising that products and services are launched late (after more lawyering) or not at all. Ideological policies often have a side effect. It's worth the inconvenience only some of the time.
- Keyframe 3y agoit must be hard following the law then for google. OpenAI doesn't seem to have an issue with it, yet; Nor Apple, nor Microsoft, even Facebook..
- fooker 3y agoOpenAI : https://time.com/6282325/sam-altman-openai-eu/ https://time.com/6282325/sam-altman-openai-eu/ Apple : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_EU_tax_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple%27s_EU_tax_dispute MS: https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/25/microsoft-reportedly-wont-bundle-teams-with-office-in-the-future/ https://www.ghacks.net/2023/04/25/microsoft-reportedly-wont-... Facebook: https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/02/07/meta-threatens-to-shut-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-over-data-transfer-issues https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/02/07/meta-threatens-to-s...
- Keyframe 3y agoYes, yes.. yet, somehow they all operate in EU. Google somehow can't. Not to mention (non) availability of pixel and similar which have nothing to do with the above.
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- qmarchi 3y agoYou can use Bard if you enable it in the Workspace Admin Portal. In https://admin.google.com/ac/appslist/additional https://admin.google.com/ac/appslist/additional, enable the option for "Early Access Apps"
- wilg 3y agoDope, thanks! Would have been a great thing for the Bard webzone to mention.
- danpalmer 3y agoThis was announced and is documented in the FAQs and support docs.
- andy_ppp 3y agoGreat but I think trying to get as many people using Bard, especially Google’s customers, should be a goal. Why not just enable this by default?
- danpalmer 3y agoTypically features like this are disabled by default for Workspace so that admins can opt-in to them. This has happened for years with many features. Part of the selling point of Workspace is stability and control. In this particular case, I would guess (I have no inside info) that companies are sensitive to use of AI tools like Bard/ChatGPT on their company machines, and want the ability to block access. All this boils down to Workspace customers are companies, not individuals.
- londons_explore 3y agoI think they don't know their market. For every IT guy who doesn't want users stumbling across a new Google product at work and uploading corporate documents to it, there is some executive who hates their 'buggy' IT systems because half the stuff he uses on his home PC doesn't work properly from a work account. The smart move would have been for workspace accounts to work exactly the same as consumer accounts by default, and then something akin to group policy for admins to disable features. For new stuff like this, let the admins have a control for 'all future products'.
- behnamoh 3y agoI don't use Bard for another reason: Google's nefarious history of canceling its services out of the blue. Is there any guarantee that Bard is not going to end up like G+, G Reader, and several other Google apps/services?
- wilg 3y agoI'm still mourning Inbox, and my muscle memory goes to inbox.google.com instead of mail.google.com in solemn protest. But, in this case, it doesn't really matter a ton if it disappears.
- agumonkey 3y agoI already forgot about this, it's really staggering the amount of churn and chaos in their app history.
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- SkyPuncher 3y agoThat's a different issue. You're on a business account. Businesses need control of how products are rolled out to their users. Compliance, support, etc, etc. It's not really fair to cast your _business_ usage of Google as the same as their consumer products. I have a personal and business account. In general, business accounts have far more available to them. They often just need some switches flipped in the admin panels.
- wilg 3y agoI don't want to be on a business account, but I have to be, so it's still fair to place the blame on Google's decision-making here.
- jrockway 3y agoSort of. If you have a Google Workspace account, and Microsoft launches some neat tool, the Google domain admin can't really control whether or not you use it. So Google just kind of punishes themselves here.
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- Analemma_ 3y agoEh, I hate to say it, but this is probably the right move (if there's a switch to get it if you really want it, which other commenters are saying there is). Enough businesses are rapidly adopting "no GPT/Bard use in the workplace for IP/liability reasons" policies that it makes sense to default to opt-in for Workspaces accounts.
- wilg 3y agoI don't care that it's opt-in. I care that it didn't tell me I could enable it and so assumed it was impossible. Also, perhaps it was not originally available? I don't know.
- endisneigh 3y agoYou can use it. Ironically if you googled it it’s the first result.