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What? I never spoke ill of Rui, i love him and supported him as best I could. Like I said, he's a genius and an amazing engineer. I spent time trying to convi

What? I never spoke ill of Rui, i love him and supported him as best I could. Like I said, he's a genius and an amazing engineer. I spent time trying to convince Google to pay for mold, as well as pushed other companies to it where i could, etc. I'm actually pretty sad this business didn't work out (and that he left!). In the end, whether someone works for Google or not i care less about than whether they are happy and able to do something they love. Work is work. If people are happy doing what Google has to do, awesome. If not, i want them to find somewhere they can be, whether self-employment or whatever. Plenty of people leave to chase a different kind of happiness, and more power to them. I hope they all succeed, and try to help however I can. Life is short, everyone deserves to be happy. Beyond that, he's the one who wrote a critique of his idea, not me! I only pointed out that the conclusion i would draw is a little different than his. Perhaps you should also consider that you don't know me, him, or our relationship, and that i may have a good idea how he will take what I write after working with him for years?

cornercasechase 3y ago
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- monero-xmr 3y ago
  On the contrary I found it quite amazing to get such insight here. The author put himself out there both with his company and this blog post, admitting failure. I don't find it unprofessional. Those opposing the director's post don't seem to grasp business very well (nor did the blogger, seemingly).
  - cornercasechase 3y ago
    It’s not whether you or I get value out of it. It’s unethical to talk about people you’ve managed publicly. Most managers won’t even get into details in a private reference check for liability and ethical reasons.
    - breck 3y ago
      It's not unethical to talk about anyone publicly. It IS unethical to keep secrets that could help people, to talk about someone behind their back, or to speak dishonestly about someone, or to criticize someone from an anon account. The OP is doing none of those things. He his both offering FREE highly thoughtful feedback to Rui (which I'm guessing is exactly what Rui was looking for by posting something publicly), and offering all of us who care about open source business models another perspective.
      - cornercasechase 3y ago
        > It's not unethical to talk about anyone publicly. If you’re a manager, it most certainly is unethical to talk about someone you’ve managed publicly. I’m hardly the first person to say this. There’s tons of information out there coaching managers on how to talk about ex-employees. Maybe it doesn’t bother you, but I assure you a lot of people care about this and don’t want their ex-boss chiming in on their new projects.
        breck 3y ago
        > Maybe it doesn’t bother you, but I assure you a lot of people care about this I think you are right on both points: 1) It doesn't bother me 2) a lot of people care about this. Everyone I know has part of their brain that rapidly recoils from criticism. That could be universal. Training your mental muscles to instead be grateful for all feedback, no matter whether it is delivered kindly or poorly, is a good skill, IMO, if you care about the truth. I think the word you should use is "impolite". I would never call someone who speaks a public truth "unethical". Impolite? Maybe (not in this case as I found their comments quite kind). But I prefer ethical people to polite people 10 times out of 10.
        distcs 3y ago
        Do you realize how you took a kind and genuine comment, made the worst possible interpretation out of it and completely derailed an otherwise interesting thread. From the HN guidelines - > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Please do better next time. Glad that your current thread has been flagged and disabled by the community.
- hobo_in_library 3y ago
  I'll admit, I had a similar initial reaction as you when I read OP's comment, but the perspective shifted once I actually read the post The post wasn't talking about his success, Rui was dissecting his company's _reason for failure_. OP took that and shifted the needle to point the blame for that failure to a different sector. He's not bashing on Rui, but that might not be clear unless one actually reads Rui's post! The only thing that might be questionable in OPs post is if there was any need to mention that he was Rui's director. The pros in favor of it is that it gave the post more credibility and attention (meaning it will help more people), and the con against it is that some folks might incorrectly interpret it as Rui-bashing and hurt OPs reputation. Given that the only people who that con would apply to would have no idea who OP was before this post (and are likely to quickly forget about him the next day), perhaps the director didn't choose poorly.

cornercasechase 3y ago

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monero-xmr 3y ago
On the contrary I found it quite amazing to get such insight here. The author put himself out there both with his company and this blog post, admitting failure. I don't find it unprofessional. Those opposing the director's post don't seem to grasp business very well (nor did the blogger, seemingly).
- cornercasechase 3y ago
  It’s not whether you or I get value out of it. It’s unethical to talk about people you’ve managed publicly. Most managers won’t even get into details in a private reference check for liability and ethical reasons.
  - breck 3y ago
    It's not unethical to talk about anyone publicly. It IS unethical to keep secrets that could help people, to talk about someone behind their back, or to speak dishonestly about someone, or to criticize someone from an anon account. The OP is doing none of those things. He his both offering FREE highly thoughtful feedback to Rui (which I'm guessing is exactly what Rui was looking for by posting something publicly), and offering all of us who care about open source business models another perspective.
    - cornercasechase 3y ago
      > It's not unethical to talk about anyone publicly. If you’re a manager, it most certainly is unethical to talk about someone you’ve managed publicly. I’m hardly the first person to say this. There’s tons of information out there coaching managers on how to talk about ex-employees. Maybe it doesn’t bother you, but I assure you a lot of people care about this and don’t want their ex-boss chiming in on their new projects.
      - breck 3y ago
        > Maybe it doesn’t bother you, but I assure you a lot of people care about this I think you are right on both points: 1) It doesn't bother me 2) a lot of people care about this. Everyone I know has part of their brain that rapidly recoils from criticism. That could be universal. Training your mental muscles to instead be grateful for all feedback, no matter whether it is delivered kindly or poorly, is a good skill, IMO, if you care about the truth. I think the word you should use is "impolite". I would never call someone who speaks a public truth "unethical". Impolite? Maybe (not in this case as I found their comments quite kind). But I prefer ethical people to polite people 10 times out of 10.
      - distcs 3y ago
        Do you realize how you took a kind and genuine comment, made the worst possible interpretation out of it and completely derailed an otherwise interesting thread. From the HN guidelines - > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. Please do better next time. Glad that your current thread has been flagged and disabled by the community.
hobo_in_library 3y ago
I'll admit, I had a similar initial reaction as you when I read OP's comment, but the perspective shifted once I actually read the post The post wasn't talking about his success, Rui was dissecting his company's _reason for failure_. OP took that and shifted the needle to point the blame for that failure to a different sector. He's not bashing on Rui, but that might not be clear unless one actually reads Rui's post! The only thing that might be questionable in OPs post is if there was any need to mention that he was Rui's director. The pros in favor of it is that it gave the post more credibility and attention (meaning it will help more people), and the con against it is that some folks might incorrectly interpret it as Rui-bashing and hurt OPs reputation. Given that the only people who that con would apply to would have no idea who OP was before this post (and are likely to quickly forget about him the next day), perhaps the director didn't choose poorly.