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If it's someone else's liberty to put me in danger, it's not really a liberty I want to defend. Speed cameras are a pretty good example of a surveillance techno
by throwway120385 3y ago
If it's someone else's liberty to put me in danger, it's not really a liberty I want to defend. Speed cameras are a pretty good example of a surveillance technology that exists because a few self-centered people rip through residential areas at high speed. These people endanger everyone around them for their own sense of enjoyment and they should be fined for that.
I agree with you about facial recognition but you're absolutely wrong to apply that principal to speed cameras. I'm all for privacy but as a user of the road you have a responsibility to use it safely, and speeders are not safe users of the road. They should get ticketed as much as possible.
- jedberg 3y agoI agree with you in principle, but it's a fine line to walk. What about China's social credit score? It's all based on surveillance cameras that doc you points for breaking petty laws like jaywalking or littering. Yes, both are safety issues, but at what cost?
- throwway120385 3y agoNo it's really not a fine line. If you do something that harms someone else I think society should be able to curtail your liberty. Social credit is not really the same thing because when you speed you're increasing the likelihood of a devastating crash with another driver or a pedestrian. Having witnessed just such a thing a couple of weeks ago and having rendered aid, I can assure you there is very real harm. It is not something I will forget.
- thsksbd 3y agoThose speed cameras take pictures of everyone's license plate to put into a behavior database (where you go, what time, etc). Nor do they accomplish much that a speed bump doesn't accomplish more effectively.
- throwway120385 3y agoI mean they can, but the burden of proof is on you to show that they do and that there is actual harm from it. I've yet to hear of a court case or warrant that was issued based on some notional speed camera database. If it's being issued on parallel construction that suggests there's some legal aspect of using those databases that prevents law enforcement from doing what you describe.
- inconceivable 3y agothere's a reason why speed cameras are not very common in the US - they get vandalized by shotgun or arson if they're effective. doesn't matter if you like it or not, that's the reality of the situation. they also ticket the owner of the car regardless of who is driving it, which is not very popular, to say the least.
- kortilla 3y agoSee you fell for the standard trap by assuming you are only giving up the speeders’ liberty.