> ...vi type movements... Can attest vi movements can be learned on Dvorak. But have to admit it is not quite as nice, those movements were designed for qwerty

> ...vi type movements... Can attest vi movements can be learned on Dvorak. But have to admit it is not quite as nice, those movements were designed for qwerty. Of course "j" and "k" are next to each other on Dvorak. "h" and "l" are also positioned at first and fourth fingers like qwerty... but on different rows and on different hand than "j/k". Which means Dvorak requires two-handed vi movements. Maybe not a big deal, vi shortcuts mean moving all over the keyboard anyway. Just not quite as nice.