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This is also crushes resell or trade in prices for current owners.
by bdcravens 3y ago
This is also crushes resell or trade in prices for current owners.
- foxyv 3y agoBut it also means when they trade in for a new Tesla they are paying much less.
- toomuchtodo 3y agoThis is good for everyone except other automakers: new owners, existing owners if they choose to upgrade, and the environment. Every unit sold is likely to displace a combustion vehicle somewhere. Ship the metal! EDIT: (comments throttled, have to reply here) wrt charging standard, was already a done deal when Ford agreed to NACS [1]. Between Tesla and Ford, they have enough market power to drag the rest of the market. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36105641 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36105641
- throw9away6 3y agoAlso bad for non Tesla ev owners because Tesla chargers captures more of the market
- ender341341 3y agowith ford migrating to tesla chargers I hope others do too (speaking as a EV6 owner with CCS type 1 charger). They're very, very similar just sell me an adapter, transition will be slightly painful for existing cars but lead to better experience for everyone.
- esotericimpl 3y agoAll my friends who own teslas all say they wouldn't buy another one. Tesla's goose is cooked imo once other charging networks come online.
- JohnFen 3y agoI wouldn't buy a Tesla regardless of the price point. Mostly because of their data connection to the mothership, but also because of the stories I've heard from the people I know who own Teslas.
- AtlasBarfed 3y agoSo you're only going to drive cars from pre OnStar era?
- djanogo 3y agoI don’t know if you know, ALL Toyotas sold in last 3 years do the same.
- foxyv 3y agoMy next vehicle will probably be a Toyota Sienna if I even bother to get another personal vehicle. Tempted to just go carless and rent when I need one. May change my tune if I have to go back to commuting any time soon.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago> All my friends who own teslas all say they wouldn't buy another one. I don't believe this is of material concern. Tesla is able to undercut every other automaker due to their robust margins and vertical efficiencies, and some legacy automakers are unlikely to survive the transition to EVs due to Tesla's lead and ramp rate. There is a buyer for every unit built, and the global auto market is ~66 million units/year. If there is softness in a market, they can quickly reallocate units to other markets. It is unlikely other fast DC charging networks won't come online at scale, because there is no way to make them profitable. Building and supporting them is a marketing cost to sell EVs. https://electrek.co/2023/05/25/tesla-model-y-is-now-the-worlds-best-selling-car-first-ev-to-do-so/ https://electrek.co/2023/05/25/tesla-model-y-is-now-the-worl... https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/22/tesla-just-passed-4-million-cumulative-sales-charts/ https://cleantechnica.com/2023/04/22/tesla-just-passed-4-mil... https://evannex.com/blogs/news/the-real-threat-to-legacy-auto-tesla-s-profit-margins https://evannex.com/blogs/news/the-real-threat-to-legacy-aut... https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-confirms-all-tesla-model-3-vehicles-qualify-7500-tax-credit-2023-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-con... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27906795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27906795 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36106271 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36106271
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