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What do you think of password-less sign-ins, e.g. email-based sign in or OAuth 2?
by jasfi 3y ago
What do you think of password-less sign-ins, e.g. email-based sign in or OAuth 2?
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe email-based “magic link” approach I’m seeing a lot more of lately, and I despise it.
- danielvaughn 3y agoWhy do you despise it?
- ceejayoz 3y agoMy password manager is faster and easier (and the email flows tend to make that slower, hidden behind a "login with another method" small grey link), email often has deliverability delays, and it's insecure to boot.
- miketmahlkow 3y agoI can second that. I prefer password logins over magic links via email. It adds too much friction. I can understand that it might be easier for people who are not using a password manager. For most services I prefer a combination of password and authy-based 2FA. For very specific purposes, some kind of hardware-based authentication, for example with yubikeys makes sense.
- jsunderland323 3y agoMagic links are great because they essentially eliminate ATO attacks and allow startups to bypass SAML requirements by delegating to the mail provider. I’m 100% willing to forgo efficiency gains of passwords and managers as both a user and developer.
- rkagerer 3y agoAll you're doing is punting your security to my email provider. It's annoying how many companies assume I have absolute trust in my ISP/Google/Miscrosoft/IT.
- ceejayoz 3y ago> essentially eliminate ATO attacks They kinda increase the blast radius of an ATO attack on your email account, though.
- jasfi 3y agoReplying too late, most likely. But with access to your email account someone could reset your password to what they want it to be and gain access.
- michaelmior 3y agoI generally find it annoying too, but I think it's reasonable as an option. (Although if it is added as an option, ideally make sure it's possible for password managers to fill in both the email and password in one shot.)