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I'm not sure that many ethnic Russians who tasted life in other countries, really want to live in Russia. It's not a healthy country. Everything I read about li

by mcv 3y ago

I'm not sure that many ethnic Russians who tasted life in other countries, really want to live in Russia. It's not a healthy country. Everything I read about life there sounds incredibly depressing.

scotty79 3y ago
The standard of life in eastern Ukraine wasn't that far off the one in Russia. There were many pro-Russian people there (probably way less now) and given that western Ukraine chose their man and party to run the whole country I can imagine plenty would migrate to Russia given the right push with open laws and some advertisement/propaganda.
- chrysler 3y ago
  Despite all the imperialism, Russians keep their wallets close. Western-aligned government (with expected rise in living standard) would've been an argument to stay in Ukraine, not to leave for Russia. In grander scheme, I believe that to be among the among main reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine. Free, prosperous Ukraine would've become an alternative power center in the Russian-speaking world. Imagine if Ukraine had followed Poland post-1991 and had the same median wage nowadays, double the median wage in Russia, with free access to Western markets. That would simply drain Russia from talent, and undermine Putin's legitimacy and the power of all who surround him. What would've been the reason to live or start a business in Russia if you could move to a country with very similar culture, do the same job, and earn multiples of what your potential in Russia would be capped to? All while enjoying better security in all aspects: economomic safety, personal safety from harm, rule of law, etc.
- mcv 3y ago
  Hasn't Russia been handing out Russian passports in the occupied areas? I think that means they now have the option of living in Russia if that's what they prefer. A strongly support that, as long as it really is their own choice.

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I'm not sure that many ethnic Russians who tasted life in other countries, really want to live in Russia. It's not a healthy country. Everything I read about li

by mcv 3y ago

I'm not sure that many ethnic Russians who tasted life in other countries, really want to live in Russia. It's not a healthy country. Everything I read about life there sounds incredibly depressing.

scotty79 3y ago
The standard of life in eastern Ukraine wasn't that far off the one in Russia. There were many pro-Russian people there (probably way less now) and given that western Ukraine chose their man and party to run the whole country I can imagine plenty would migrate to Russia given the right push with open laws and some advertisement/propaganda.
- chrysler 3y ago
  Despite all the imperialism, Russians keep their wallets close. Western-aligned government (with expected rise in living standard) would've been an argument to stay in Ukraine, not to leave for Russia. In grander scheme, I believe that to be among the among main reasons why Russia invaded Ukraine. Free, prosperous Ukraine would've become an alternative power center in the Russian-speaking world. Imagine if Ukraine had followed Poland post-1991 and had the same median wage nowadays, double the median wage in Russia, with free access to Western markets. That would simply drain Russia from talent, and undermine Putin's legitimacy and the power of all who surround him. What would've been the reason to live or start a business in Russia if you could move to a country with very similar culture, do the same job, and earn multiples of what your potential in Russia would be capped to? All while enjoying better security in all aspects: economomic safety, personal safety from harm, rule of law, etc.
- mcv 3y ago
  Hasn't Russia been handing out Russian passports in the occupied areas? I think that means they now have the option of living in Russia if that's what they prefer. A strongly support that, as long as it really is their own choice.