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In your mind it's not that different. Consider the importance of media on shaping your thoughts, beliefs, memories, emotions. Whether delivered through a cinema

In your mind it's not that different. Consider the importance of media on shaping your thoughts, beliefs, memories, emotions. Whether delivered through a cinema screen or a tiny phone doesn't matter. VR/AR has wow factor, but you quickly get used to it, and then your concerns are mostly pragmatic: the headset is huge, the battery life short and so on. Although AR at least has pass through, which is a big benefit, as it doesn't completely hide your real surroundings.

Jochim 3y ago
I'm a fan of VR/AR but found Apple's reveal video to be profoundly sad. There's a sense of isolation running through the whole thing. The immediate connection many people made was to Black Mirror. The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note. From the children's perspective, instead of their father's face they see a pair of black goggles and rather than their father's eyes they see a digital facsimile.
- ChuckNorris89 3y ago
  >The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note. "Hold still son so I can record this moment, I've only got 10 minutes out of the 2h of battery left on this headset" lol The mental illnesses kids will have growing up with tech addicted parents are gonna be epic. Therapists are gonna be printing money.
  - kanbara 3y ago
    people already film their kids on their phone, take live photos of their dogs, and tiktok/insta themselves in a cool place. having the ability to share parts of our lives remotely and also remember them is profound. i often look back at photos of the past few years, and remark at memories i've forgotten, places i've been, and i share those things with others as well. sure no one wants 10 people in a room interacting thru their apple vision pro, but i really don't think it's fundamentally different. and if i could have a 3d video of my deceased family that looks more real than a photo, i'd love that. look at the parts of the tech that connect us more; there will always be negative things, loners, tech addicts, etc. and as for the mental illness quip, i honestly don't have an answer because it's so outlandish we can't even begin to quantify it
    - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
      You must be fun at parties
- chasd00 3y ago
  > The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note Yeah that was a mistake. It should have been a worker recording how to assemble something to make a training vid. The family recording thing probably turned off a lot of people.
  - alexvoda 3y ago
    Precisely. Some mechanical training or live assistance is entirely plausible. I experienced a similar thing with HoloLens and other than the limited FOV it was really convincing as a tool. Apple unironically going for the dystopia angle is a weird flex.
- satyrnein 3y ago
  I mostly agree, but on the other hand: when I was a kid in the 80s, my dad spent my birthday parties walking around with a shoulder mounted video camera. It was lame, but not quite dystopian.

Jochim 3y ago

I'm a fan of VR/AR but found Apple's reveal video to be profoundly sad. There's a sense of isolation running through the whole thing. The immediate connection many people made was to Black Mirror. The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note. From the children's perspective, instead of their father's face they see a pair of black goggles and rather than their father's eyes they see a digital facsimile.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago
>The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note. "Hold still son so I can record this moment, I've only got 10 minutes out of the 2h of battery left on this headset" lol The mental illnesses kids will have growing up with tech addicted parents are gonna be epic. Therapists are gonna be printing money.
- kanbara 3y ago
  people already film their kids on their phone, take live photos of their dogs, and tiktok/insta themselves in a cool place. having the ability to share parts of our lives remotely and also remember them is profound. i often look back at photos of the past few years, and remark at memories i've forgotten, places i've been, and i share those things with others as well. sure no one wants 10 people in a room interacting thru their apple vision pro, but i really don't think it's fundamentally different. and if i could have a 3d video of my deceased family that looks more real than a photo, i'd love that. look at the parts of the tech that connect us more; there will always be negative things, loners, tech addicts, etc. and as for the mental illness quip, i honestly don't have an answer because it's so outlandish we can't even begin to quantify it
  - ChuckNorris89 3y ago
    You must be fun at parties
chasd00 3y ago
> The father wearing the headset and recording his children play around him really hit that note Yeah that was a mistake. It should have been a worker recording how to assemble something to make a training vid. The family recording thing probably turned off a lot of people.
- alexvoda 3y ago
  Precisely. Some mechanical training or live assistance is entirely plausible. I experienced a similar thing with HoloLens and other than the limited FOV it was really convincing as a tool. Apple unironically going for the dystopia angle is a weird flex.
satyrnein 3y ago
I mostly agree, but on the other hand: when I was a kid in the 80s, my dad spent my birthday parties walking around with a shoulder mounted video camera. It was lame, but not quite dystopian.