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Maybe instead it is the school that should change and adapt to a world where everyone is assumed to have a phone.

jhanschoo 3y ago
The article outlines a "change and adaptation to a world where everyone is assumed to have a phone". Do you have a superior alternative change and adaptation that resolves the issues outlined by the article?
joenot443 3y ago
We live in a world where adult temptations like cigarettes, guns, alcohol, and sex are rightfully not allowed at school. There's hardly a bodega in New York where you can't buy beer or cigarettes, yet I think schools (generally) do a good job of keeping them away from kids during the day. These days, more and more do I perceive internet-connected smartphones as an adult temptation which children needn't be exposed to. Yes, they live in a world where most people have phones. They also live in a world where most people drink! It will take some time and it will be uncomfortable, but I'm of the opinion that a slow, society-wide shift away from all-day children's device usage is what's needed to stop the bleeding.
- ryanmercer 3y ago
  >, yet I think schools (generally) do a good job of keeping them away from kids during the day. When I was in high school 99-03 you couldn't go into the bathroom without seeing someone smoking a cigarette or a joint, I even had a teacher that would let you have a restroom pass under the condition he reserved the right to smell you (at a reasonable distance) when you returned to make sure you didn't smoke. Now kids try to sneak vapes in class (my wife is a high school teacher) and at a school she taught at before we got married they had a student OD on fentanyl that someone had laced his vape cartridge with. When I was in high school you'd have kids on MDMA in class too with some regularity. A friend that is also a teacher, about 7-8 years ago, had (presumably) a student dose her Starbucks sitting on her desk with a roofie which required her being in the hospital for 2 days. Schools aren't doing a good job of anything in that regard. Even prisons can't keep drugs out and they have strip and cavity searches.
prepend 3y ago
Ah yes the “give the teachers and students guns argument.” I’m not sure the way a school should adopt to the world is to allow every kid to legally carry a gun.
lisasays 3y ago
Or maybe they should adapt to the future. When everyone has recovered from this cancer. And we're finally allowed to be in the moment again, and are no no longer expected to keep diddling our phones all day.

The article outlines a "change and adaptation to a world where everyone is assumed to have a phone". Do you have a superior alternative change and adaptation that resolves the issues outlined by the article?

joenot443 3y ago

We live in a world where adult temptations like cigarettes, guns, alcohol, and sex are rightfully not allowed at school. There's hardly a bodega in New York where you can't buy beer or cigarettes, yet I think schools (generally) do a good job of keeping them away from kids during the day. These days, more and more do I perceive internet-connected smartphones as an adult temptation which children needn't be exposed to. Yes, they live in a world where most people have phones. They also live in a world where most people drink! It will take some time and it will be uncomfortable, but I'm of the opinion that a slow, society-wide shift away from all-day children's device usage is what's needed to stop the bleeding.

ryanmercer 3y ago
>, yet I think schools (generally) do a good job of keeping them away from kids during the day. When I was in high school 99-03 you couldn't go into the bathroom without seeing someone smoking a cigarette or a joint, I even had a teacher that would let you have a restroom pass under the condition he reserved the right to smell you (at a reasonable distance) when you returned to make sure you didn't smoke. Now kids try to sneak vapes in class (my wife is a high school teacher) and at a school she taught at before we got married they had a student OD on fentanyl that someone had laced his vape cartridge with. When I was in high school you'd have kids on MDMA in class too with some regularity. A friend that is also a teacher, about 7-8 years ago, had (presumably) a student dose her Starbucks sitting on her desk with a roofie which required her being in the hospital for 2 days. Schools aren't doing a good job of anything in that regard. Even prisons can't keep drugs out and they have strip and cavity searches.

prepend 3y ago

Ah yes the “give the teachers and students guns argument.” I’m not sure the way a school should adopt to the world is to allow every kid to legally carry a gun.

lisasays 3y ago

Or maybe they should adapt to the future. When everyone has recovered from this cancer. And we're finally allowed to be in the moment again, and are no no longer expected to keep diddling our phones all day.