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The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though -- so why not both? Anyway, they can probably still have old Nokias

by anotherhue 3y ago

wnevets 3y ago
> The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though it impacts far too many. Let them have their phones.
- hanklazard 3y ago
  let them have a simple communication device. they don't need tiktok and instagram in school.
  - wnevets 3y ago
    social media has proven indispensable during times of crisis in the past. No reason to handicap the kids when their school is being shot up.
    - bart_spoon 3y ago
      Yes, how can we forget the countless lives that were saved during school shootings thanks to ready access to Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok?
    - prepend 3y ago
      This is silly. TikTok is not indispensable during times of crisis. Neither is instagram. To make this claim you’d need some way to distinguish the value of TikTok vs just phone and messaging. But it’s definite that kids using TikTok in a class of 25-30 lowers performance. Schools have multiple problems (why 30 kids in a class) but phones make it even harder.
      - wnevets 3y ago
        If you want to deprive your child of a potentially life saving device be my guest but you don't get to impose such limitation on my family .
        prepend 3y ago
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        wnevets 3y ago
        > Statistically, a cell phone will do more harm to a child than a gun (comparing injury and death as a rate of gun ownership vs depression rates for kids with smartphones). To even suggest a child owning a gun is safer than a smart phone is in incredibly poor taste and a smack in the face of any parent who has lost a child to this crisis.
        prepend 3y ago
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    - JonathanDnk 3y ago
      Scroll up to see my reply above - law enforcement and security experts tend to say that children using their phones causing more harm than good during a crisis.
igetspam 3y ago
You're not completely wrong but you're heading that way. Almost every public and private school in the country does shooter drills now. Kids who haven't been through a school shooting suffer PTSD. They are genuinely afraid that they'll die at school and this is a reality they hear from many adults. What you mean to say is that not 100% of kids will suffer through a school shooting and that's true but I'll be damned if going to opt to remove phones from kids at school until the likelihood inverts, year over year.
- JonathanDnk 3y ago
  As the article notes, believing that they need their phone to hedge against that possibility and won't be safe without it likely makes their mental health worse, not better.

The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though -- so why not both? Anyway, they can probably still have old Nokias

wnevets 3y ago

> The gun problem doesn't impact 100% of kids though it impacts far too many. Let them have their phones.

hanklazard 3y ago
let them have a simple communication device. they don't need tiktok and instagram in school.
- wnevets 3y ago
  social media has proven indispensable during times of crisis in the past. No reason to handicap the kids when their school is being shot up.
  - bart_spoon 3y ago
    Yes, how can we forget the countless lives that were saved during school shootings thanks to ready access to Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok?
  - prepend 3y ago
    This is silly. TikTok is not indispensable during times of crisis. Neither is instagram. To make this claim you’d need some way to distinguish the value of TikTok vs just phone and messaging. But it’s definite that kids using TikTok in a class of 25-30 lowers performance. Schools have multiple problems (why 30 kids in a class) but phones make it even harder.
    - wnevets 3y ago
      If you want to deprive your child of a potentially life saving device be my guest but you don't get to impose such limitation on my family .
      - prepend 3y ago
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        wnevets 3y ago
        > Statistically, a cell phone will do more harm to a child than a gun (comparing injury and death as a rate of gun ownership vs depression rates for kids with smartphones). To even suggest a child owning a gun is safer than a smart phone is in incredibly poor taste and a smack in the face of any parent who has lost a child to this crisis.
        prepend 3y ago
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  - JonathanDnk 3y ago
    Scroll up to see my reply above - law enforcement and security experts tend to say that children using their phones causing more harm than good during a crisis.

igetspam 3y ago

You're not completely wrong but you're heading that way. Almost every public and private school in the country does shooter drills now. Kids who haven't been through a school shooting suffer PTSD. They are genuinely afraid that they'll die at school and this is a reality they hear from many adults. What you mean to say is that not 100% of kids will suffer through a school shooting and that's true but I'll be damned if going to opt to remove phones from kids at school until the likelihood inverts, year over year.

JonathanDnk 3y ago
As the article notes, believing that they need their phone to hedge against that possibility and won't be safe without it likely makes their mental health worse, not better.