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Would it? If everyone on earth did have a 4-year bachelor’s degree, but you lived in a social-credit driven, machine vision, surveillance world, and you’re puni

Would it? If everyone on earth did have a 4-year bachelor’s degree, but you lived in a social-credit driven, machine vision, surveillance world, and you’re punished every time you step out of line—what are all those educated people going to do? They can’t even meet or communicate in private

startupsfail 3y ago
How about a world in which bullies who spit on the social contracts (and society in general) get a free ride, benefit from it and win? Would you prefer that?
- shwaj 3y ago
  Weren’t they responding specifically to a comment that said AI would make it easier for “freedom fighters and democracy”? I don’t understand how your questions relate to that. Furthermore, you seem to be implying that AI will help deal with the bully problem… how?
  - startupsfail 3y ago
    You’ve also given an example that the world in which educated people can’t communicate in private is a poor place. I’m giving a counter-example that a world in which there are no records and no supervision of antisocial behaviors could also be a poor place. The way that AI can deal with bullying is exactly the same a good teacher could. You build a model of a good and intelligent teacher that deals well with bullying and put it out. Bullying gets solved. Everyone who is not a bully is slightly better off and can enjoy it.
bbor 3y ago
The idea is that educated people would not be as likely to support authoritarian regimes. If you take authoritarian power as a given… idk what’s the point of anything? I do agree that increased surveillance is very scary. But we have to maintain hope that the future holds promise for the less powerful to influence their government - in the 1770s it was via muskets, and in the 2070s who knows what it will be. (As an aside, I personally doubt it’s going to be guns…)
- layer8 3y ago
  I don’t know about that. Ideologues who provide the justifications for authoritarian regimes tend to be very educated people. In addition, opposing authoritarian tendencies might require more the qualities of activists and physical action than intellectual education.

startupsfail 3y ago

How about a world in which bullies who spit on the social contracts (and society in general) get a free ride, benefit from it and win? Would you prefer that?

shwaj 3y ago
Weren’t they responding specifically to a comment that said AI would make it easier for “freedom fighters and democracy”? I don’t understand how your questions relate to that. Furthermore, you seem to be implying that AI will help deal with the bully problem… how?
- startupsfail 3y ago
  You’ve also given an example that the world in which educated people can’t communicate in private is a poor place. I’m giving a counter-example that a world in which there are no records and no supervision of antisocial behaviors could also be a poor place. The way that AI can deal with bullying is exactly the same a good teacher could. You build a model of a good and intelligent teacher that deals well with bullying and put it out. Bullying gets solved. Everyone who is not a bully is slightly better off and can enjoy it.

bbor 3y ago

The idea is that educated people would not be as likely to support authoritarian regimes. If you take authoritarian power as a given… idk what’s the point of anything? I do agree that increased surveillance is very scary. But we have to maintain hope that the future holds promise for the less powerful to influence their government - in the 1770s it was via muskets, and in the 2070s who knows what it will be. (As an aside, I personally doubt it’s going to be guns…)

layer8 3y ago
I don’t know about that. Ideologues who provide the justifications for authoritarian regimes tend to be very educated people. In addition, opposing authoritarian tendencies might require more the qualities of activists and physical action than intellectual education.