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I have pendulum nystagmus since birth. My eyes saccade and shake very rapidly, even when I'm focused on something. Folks who talk with me certainly notice. I r

by gcr 3y ago

I have pendulum nystagmus since birth. My eyes saccade and shake very rapidly, even when I'm focused on something. Folks who talk with me certainly notice. I really hope I won't be locked out of using vision pro just because its input modality isn't compatible with my body...

boppo1 3y ago
You might be SOL on version 1 or 2 but they'll figure it out eventually.
- JohnBooty 3y ago
  That was my thinking. They don't always nail down accessibility issues right away, but I think they're fairly highly regarded in terms of getting to things eventually. (I say "I think" because I have not actually used their accessibility features) With all of the new paradigms in VisionOS it seems perhaps unavoidable that accessibility features might take some time to catch up. Engineers and designers have to wrap their minds around the new stuff.
  - ElFitz 3y ago
    Their accessibility features are quite fascinating. Sound recognition for example, or Assistive Touch on the watch. Not needing those I have no idea wether or not they’re actually useful, but it sure is impressive and seems well-thought.
  - Spooky23 3y ago
    Maybe. The eyes are a sort of the canary in the coal mine for lots of neurological issues. Sometimes people don’t notice problems because the brain adapts well, and accommodation may be more challenging than one might think. I have a loved one having issues due to a brain cancer. Optical seizures were the first warning sign and went unnoticed for some time. It would be amazing if VisionOS could potentially detect some conditions or help folks with epilepsy just as the watch has for some cardiac events.
bentcorner 3y ago
One could hope they have an accessibility mode where the eye targets are larger. Or they offer a hardware controller pointer.
david_van_loon 3y ago
Index finger, wrist, and head are supported as alternate pointers.
fotta 3y ago
They describe alternate pointer modes in this presentation (18:30) https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/10034 https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/10034
samplatt 3y ago
Curious. How do you go with 'normal' VR? Are there any problems playing games?

by gcr 3y ago

boppo1 3y ago

You might be SOL on version 1 or 2 but they'll figure it out eventually.

JohnBooty 3y ago
That was my thinking. They don't always nail down accessibility issues right away, but I think they're fairly highly regarded in terms of getting to things eventually. (I say "I think" because I have not actually used their accessibility features) With all of the new paradigms in VisionOS it seems perhaps unavoidable that accessibility features might take some time to catch up. Engineers and designers have to wrap their minds around the new stuff.
- ElFitz 3y ago
  Their accessibility features are quite fascinating. Sound recognition for example, or Assistive Touch on the watch. Not needing those I have no idea wether or not they’re actually useful, but it sure is impressive and seems well-thought.
- Spooky23 3y ago
  Maybe. The eyes are a sort of the canary in the coal mine for lots of neurological issues. Sometimes people don’t notice problems because the brain adapts well, and accommodation may be more challenging than one might think. I have a loved one having issues due to a brain cancer. Optical seizures were the first warning sign and went unnoticed for some time. It would be amazing if VisionOS could potentially detect some conditions or help folks with epilepsy just as the watch has for some cardiac events.

bentcorner 3y ago

One could hope they have an accessibility mode where the eye targets are larger. Or they offer a hardware controller pointer.

david_van_loon 3y ago

Index finger, wrist, and head are supported as alternate pointers.

fotta 3y ago

They describe alternate pointer modes in this presentation (18:30) https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/10034 https://developer.apple.com/wwdc23/10034

samplatt 3y ago

Curious. How do you go with 'normal' VR? Are there any problems playing games?