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I'm perplexed that BTC's price dropped 5% yesterday and bounced right back today. How does the market not care that the biggest exchanges keep collapsing?

codehalo 3y ago
Binance collapsed???
scrlk 3y ago
SEC going after the remaining players post-FTX is priced in.
matheusmoreira 3y ago
BTC simply went on sale yesterday.
wmf 3y ago
It has been argued that Binance themselves manipulates the price to drive sentiment.
cypress66 3y ago
Because BTC aren't stocks in Binance? Even if binance and many other exchanges close, there'll always be at least a few exchanges to operate, it's not like you won't be able to sell your BTC. Also some people that had USD balances in Binance might have bought BTC so as to withdraw their funds to their wallet.
tylersmith 3y ago
Neither Binance nor Coinbase collapsed. They've just been sued.
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crtified 3y ago
It's no more illogical than, say, the progression of the SPX500 and Dow Jones Industrial stock market indexes between 2019-2020-2023. "How does the market not care vis-a-vis the gruelling recent pandemic, ongoing supply shocks, mounting climate change disasters, population curve declines, military instability ....... ?" In Bitcoin's case, it needs be remembered that: * Bitcoin as the original (and, in some ways, least sullied) crypto asset will have the greatest resilience * Despite these exchanges having the greatest Trade Volumes, they are each only involved with a minority of the total global assets. That is, most Bitcoin that exists, has never touched Binance. Even more, most Bitcoin that exists, existed before Binance did. * Markets aren't that predictable - attempting to trade a market in a buy/sell manner based upon whether today is a seeming Good News Day or Bad News Day ... well, if it was that easy, we'd all be doing it trivially * The previous point is also adjunct to the fact that, for example, "obvious selling time" is most often leapt upon (with leverage) by amateur traders - whom the market then liquidates with a sudden contrary movement. A cynical manipulation certainly not unique to crypto markets, but yes absolutely ripe for them.
- pid-1 3y ago
  > It's no more illogical than, say, the progression of the SPX500 and Dow Jones Industrial stock market indexes between 2019-2020-2023. > "How does the market not care vis-a-vis the gruelling recent pandemic, ongoing supply shocks, mounting climate change disasters, population curve declines, military instability ..... The progression was completely logical. Central banks deployed trillions in QE. Market participants decided that betting against institutions with so much money was not wise and joined the bull ride. We are now paying with inflation.
  - crtified 3y ago
    I agree. Remove the double-negative in my phrase "no more illogical", and my argument is that there is logical cause-and-effect in both situations, despite the easy potential for assuming a different outcome based upon select, surface assumptions.
lmm 3y ago
The real part of the market does care, the bounce is it being pumped back up.
TheDudeMan 3y ago
Some misinformed people panic-sold yesterday. And well-informed people bought the dip. As a bitcoin holder, why would I be sad that the SEC is finally fixing the crypto casinos?
Ekaros 3y ago
Bounce back is actually logical conclusion. If withdrawing BTC is faster it makes sense to buy it with dollars(in SEC's reach) and then moving them elsewhere and taking the money.
predictabl3 3y ago
I think it's sort of priced in already. I expect certain cryptos will outlive even the biggest exchanges. That statement has been repeatedly over the last 12 years anyway.

codehalo 3y ago

Binance collapsed???

scrlk 3y ago

SEC going after the remaining players post-FTX is priced in.

matheusmoreira 3y ago

BTC simply went on sale yesterday.

wmf 3y ago

It has been argued that Binance themselves manipulates the price to drive sentiment.

cypress66 3y ago

Because BTC aren't stocks in Binance? Even if binance and many other exchanges close, there'll always be at least a few exchanges to operate, it's not like you won't be able to sell your BTC. Also some people that had USD balances in Binance might have bought BTC so as to withdraw their funds to their wallet.

tylersmith 3y ago

Neither Binance nor Coinbase collapsed. They've just been sued.

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crtified 3y ago

It's no more illogical than, say, the progression of the SPX500 and Dow Jones Industrial stock market indexes between 2019-2020-2023. "How does the market not care vis-a-vis the gruelling recent pandemic, ongoing supply shocks, mounting climate change disasters, population curve declines, military instability ....... ?" In Bitcoin's case, it needs be remembered that: * Bitcoin as the original (and, in some ways, least sullied) crypto asset will have the greatest resilience * Despite these exchanges having the greatest Trade Volumes, they are each only involved with a minority of the total global assets. That is, most Bitcoin that exists, has never touched Binance. Even more, most Bitcoin that exists, existed before Binance did. * Markets aren't that predictable - attempting to trade a market in a buy/sell manner based upon whether today is a seeming Good News Day or Bad News Day ... well, if it was that easy, we'd all be doing it trivially * The previous point is also adjunct to the fact that, for example, "obvious selling time" is most often leapt upon (with leverage) by amateur traders - whom the market then liquidates with a sudden contrary movement. A cynical manipulation certainly not unique to crypto markets, but yes absolutely ripe for them.

pid-1 3y ago
> It's no more illogical than, say, the progression of the SPX500 and Dow Jones Industrial stock market indexes between 2019-2020-2023. > "How does the market not care vis-a-vis the gruelling recent pandemic, ongoing supply shocks, mounting climate change disasters, population curve declines, military instability ..... The progression was completely logical. Central banks deployed trillions in QE. Market participants decided that betting against institutions with so much money was not wise and joined the bull ride. We are now paying with inflation.
- crtified 3y ago
  I agree. Remove the double-negative in my phrase "no more illogical", and my argument is that there is logical cause-and-effect in both situations, despite the easy potential for assuming a different outcome based upon select, surface assumptions.

lmm 3y ago

The real part of the market does care, the bounce is it being pumped back up.

TheDudeMan 3y ago

Some misinformed people panic-sold yesterday. And well-informed people bought the dip. As a bitcoin holder, why would I be sad that the SEC is finally fixing the crypto casinos?

Ekaros 3y ago

Bounce back is actually logical conclusion. If withdrawing BTC is faster it makes sense to buy it with dollars(in SEC's reach) and then moving them elsewhere and taking the money.

predictabl3 3y ago

I think it's sort of priced in already. I expect certain cryptos will outlive even the biggest exchanges. That statement has been repeatedly over the last 12 years anyway.