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In the demo, I was hoping to see some app/screen/display anchored to certain walls or being fixed in a 3D spot. That way I can walk to a place to see that "scre

In the demo, I was hoping to see some app/screen/display anchored to certain walls or being fixed in a 3D spot. That way I can walk to a place to see that "screen".

endisneigh 3y ago
Isn’t that an intractable problem without LiDAR? I suppose the naive solution would be to fix the screens in spots as you suggest as opposed to pinning onto real life locations. edit: ah, right the vision pro does have lidar. I look forward to seeing this pinning if it's implemented. I'm still skeptical it would work well - I've used ARKit and it's not really that accurate when you're moving around.
- fauntle 3y ago
  It should be relatively simple with a QR code or similar physical marker in the real world.
  - endisneigh 3y ago
    With yeah I agree. Without though it seems difficult
    - balaji1 3y ago
      why do you guys say this? Amazon's "View in your room" feature does a decent job of placing a furniture in AR. We can even walk around/towards it. And that tech is just Apple ARKit right?
      - endisneigh 3y ago
        I don’t think it’s that good. “Decent” is accurate
        balaji1 3y ago
        right.. so maybe Apple just thinks it is not good enough yet. They must be stretched on onboard compute capacity already. And some might argue you just switch apps to find that "screen". Personally I would put something interesting on the ceiling and look up at it.
        endisneigh 3y ago
        Is it possible to track your position that accurately in an arbitrarily large space?
- cubefox 3y ago
  But the Apple Vision has LiDAR.
- kalleboo 3y ago
  It does have LiDAR, same as the iPhone/iPad AR stuff has had for years now.
- throwuwu 3y ago
  The Quest has been doing this for years with the guardian setup and now with their option to bring your desk and couch into VR. I think the Pro has more advanced features but I haven’t tried it. You do have to assist it by drawing our boundaries but it’s pretty easy to do
lagrange77 3y ago
In the demo there is a scene where a guy displays some iceberg photo on a virtual screen and then moves closer to it, with the screen anchored to some 3D point in the real world.
- jodrellblank 3y ago
  They kept doing that, like the woman sitting on the sofa watching a film leans down towards her popcorn[1] and the screen doesn't move, or the woman lying in bed watching the ceiling change into a blue sky[2] instead of just a blue sky where she was looking. [1] https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=180 https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=180 [2] Same video, 5min 12s: https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=312 https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=312
prawn 3y ago
I think they'll inevitably introduce this down the track. The idea that you can set up a workspace as fixed to a particular place. Sit on the couch, and by default it has media apps and a big screen. Put it on in your office, and you can cover the walls with reference drawings and appropriate apps that are all where you left them.

In the demo, I was hoping to see some app/screen/display anchored to certain walls or being fixed in a 3D spot. That way I can walk to a place to see that "screen".

endisneigh 3y ago

Isn’t that an intractable problem without LiDAR? I suppose the naive solution would be to fix the screens in spots as you suggest as opposed to pinning onto real life locations. edit: ah, right the vision pro does have lidar. I look forward to seeing this pinning if it's implemented. I'm still skeptical it would work well - I've used ARKit and it's not really that accurate when you're moving around.

fauntle 3y ago
It should be relatively simple with a QR code or similar physical marker in the real world.
- endisneigh 3y ago
  With yeah I agree. Without though it seems difficult
  - balaji1 3y ago
    why do you guys say this? Amazon's "View in your room" feature does a decent job of placing a furniture in AR. We can even walk around/towards it. And that tech is just Apple ARKit right?
    - endisneigh 3y ago
      I don’t think it’s that good. “Decent” is accurate
      - balaji1 3y ago
        right.. so maybe Apple just thinks it is not good enough yet. They must be stretched on onboard compute capacity already. And some might argue you just switch apps to find that "screen". Personally I would put something interesting on the ceiling and look up at it.
        endisneigh 3y ago
        Is it possible to track your position that accurately in an arbitrarily large space?
cubefox 3y ago
But the Apple Vision has LiDAR.
kalleboo 3y ago
It does have LiDAR, same as the iPhone/iPad AR stuff has had for years now.
throwuwu 3y ago
The Quest has been doing this for years with the guardian setup and now with their option to bring your desk and couch into VR. I think the Pro has more advanced features but I haven’t tried it. You do have to assist it by drawing our boundaries but it’s pretty easy to do

lagrange77 3y ago

In the demo there is a scene where a guy displays some iceberg photo on a virtual screen and then moves closer to it, with the screen anchored to some 3D point in the real world.

jodrellblank 3y ago
They kept doing that, like the woman sitting on the sofa watching a film leans down towards her popcorn[1] and the screen doesn't move, or the woman lying in bed watching the ceiling change into a blue sky[2] instead of just a blue sky where she was looking. [1] https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=180 https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=180 [2] Same video, 5min 12s: https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=312 https://youtu.be/TX9qSaGXFyg?t=312

prawn 3y ago

I think they'll inevitably introduce this down the track. The idea that you can set up a workspace as fixed to a particular place. Sit on the couch, and by default it has media apps and a big screen. Put it on in your office, and you can cover the walls with reference drawings and appropriate apps that are all where you left them.