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Sextortionists are making AI nudes from your social media images

43 points by nazgulsenpai 3y ago

lilboiluvr69 3y ago
I wonder if the Internet and AI generation will lead to a culture change where a picture of someone (real or fake) in a sexual situation will no longer be extortion worthy. Seems odd that a picture of someone naked can lead to a loss of their job or social circle. I don't think that's a good thing.
- hirundo 3y ago
  The flip side is that AI generation makes nudes, real or not, plausibly deniable.
- pengaru 3y ago
  I'm not sure AI is even needed for this to occur. Sexting and onlyfans-style hustles have become so normalized with the always-on-camera smartphone generation, the trajectory is clear. Just a matter of time before the prudes all die off. Progress of this sort tends to be generational... just look at tattoos and weed.
mmh0000 3y ago
Deepnude has been offering this as a service for several months now. [1] (NSFW) https://deepnude.cc https://deepnude.cc
- tastysandwich 3y ago
  This is scary. While I find it on-topic, I feel compelled to downvote your comment so that less people see the link. Sorry!
  - lilboiluvr69 3y ago
    I guess as someone who lived in a long time in a clothing optional community, the idea that people being naked is a bad thing (we are all naked under our clothes) really confuses me.
    - ethanbond 3y ago
      What about the idea that random people on the internet can produce believable images of your naked body and share it with people who you never consented to share it with? Come on, it’s not that difficult.
      - sharemywin 3y ago
        but it's not your body.
      - lilboiluvr69 3y ago
        But that's my point. Why would I care if somebody saw me naked?
        bcrl 3y ago
        As Lily Allen says in The Fear: And I'll take my clothes off and it will be shameless 'Cause everyone knows that's how you get famous We are such an odd society with so very many double standards.
        DangitBobby 3y ago
        It's not about you.
        lilboiluvr69 3y ago
        I suppose not. But if I was in a very Muslim centric country and people were complaining that this software allows pictures of women without a hijab, my first thought would be the same: why is that such a bad thing? I mean the article itself says people are willing to pay extortion money than risk even fictional depictions of their naked bodies. Maybe its time we reassess our culture...
  - asfarley 3y ago
    Upvoted, simulation is outside of morality
  - houseinthesky 3y ago
    Alternative perspective - believable AI-generated nudes completely eliminate the risk of "revenge porn" or embarrassment from leaked photos. If someone can say "Hey Siri, generate a picture of Alice and Bob fornicating" and get a realistic image, then neither Alice nor Bob ever need to worry about their private photos being hacked, leaked, shared, etc. They can just laugh and say the image is a fake. It's a huge win for everyone in the long term, the perfect counter to privacy invasion - simply bury any real private information in a mountain of fakes. Oh you think got my medical record, my tax return, my nudes, my private texts, my performance reviews? Which ones? Here's 500 equally plausible alternative versions of all of those.
    - karendaves 3y ago
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- Noumenon72 3y ago
  It seems like a more effective blackmail scheme than "here's some obviously AI generated images of you, imagine the shame!" would be "you uploaded pics to deepnude.cc on June 6 and we used facial recognition to find out it's your coworker. Should we tell them?"
xchip 3y ago
Great!
0xr0kk3r 3y ago
NGL: I'd watch a deepfake of me having sex with myself. It might lead to some "Being John Malkovich" trauma though.
prepend 3y ago
It’s funny as I remember as a kid people would argue against the sports illustrated swimsuit edition because it let people imagine the women without closed and that’s just wrong. And I wondered if places that require women to wear coverings had the same logic (ie,”if people see too much ankle they can imagine a bare leg”). My school once got penalized in a cheerleading competition because the uniforms only went over the knees instead of the other teams where it went to their ankles. What was the point as both wore bloomers underneath. However, I think it’s the idea of stopping people from thinking lascivious thoughts. I think it’s a losing battle as people have great imagination. I would have a problem if these deepnude sites had X-ray vision or something, but just predicting what someone looks like nude is hard to stop. Can you even make it illegal to imagine someone nude? I think we’ll find out soon in the next 20 years as people start adding “nude mode” to Apple Vision and Teams where all the attractive people appear nude.

43 points by nazgulsenpai 3y ago

I wonder if the Internet and AI generation will lead to a culture change where a picture of someone (real or fake) in a sexual situation will no longer be extortion worthy. Seems odd that a picture of someone naked can lead to a loss of their job or social circle. I don't think that's a good thing.

hirundo 3y ago
The flip side is that AI generation makes nudes, real or not, plausibly deniable.
pengaru 3y ago
I'm not sure AI is even needed for this to occur. Sexting and onlyfans-style hustles have become so normalized with the always-on-camera smartphone generation, the trajectory is clear. Just a matter of time before the prudes all die off. Progress of this sort tends to be generational... just look at tattoos and weed.

mmh0000 3y ago

Deepnude has been offering this as a service for several months now. [1] (NSFW) https://deepnude.cc https://deepnude.cc

tastysandwich 3y ago
This is scary. While I find it on-topic, I feel compelled to downvote your comment so that less people see the link. Sorry!
- lilboiluvr69 3y ago
  I guess as someone who lived in a long time in a clothing optional community, the idea that people being naked is a bad thing (we are all naked under our clothes) really confuses me.
  - ethanbond 3y ago
    What about the idea that random people on the internet can produce believable images of your naked body and share it with people who you never consented to share it with? Come on, it’s not that difficult.
    - sharemywin 3y ago
      but it's not your body.
    - lilboiluvr69 3y ago
      But that's my point. Why would I care if somebody saw me naked?
      - bcrl 3y ago
        As Lily Allen says in The Fear: And I'll take my clothes off and it will be shameless 'Cause everyone knows that's how you get famous We are such an odd society with so very many double standards.
      - DangitBobby 3y ago
        It's not about you.
        lilboiluvr69 3y ago
        I suppose not. But if I was in a very Muslim centric country and people were complaining that this software allows pictures of women without a hijab, my first thought would be the same: why is that such a bad thing? I mean the article itself says people are willing to pay extortion money than risk even fictional depictions of their naked bodies. Maybe its time we reassess our culture...
- asfarley 3y ago
  Upvoted, simulation is outside of morality
- houseinthesky 3y ago
  Alternative perspective - believable AI-generated nudes completely eliminate the risk of "revenge porn" or embarrassment from leaked photos. If someone can say "Hey Siri, generate a picture of Alice and Bob fornicating" and get a realistic image, then neither Alice nor Bob ever need to worry about their private photos being hacked, leaked, shared, etc. They can just laugh and say the image is a fake. It's a huge win for everyone in the long term, the perfect counter to privacy invasion - simply bury any real private information in a mountain of fakes. Oh you think got my medical record, my tax return, my nudes, my private texts, my performance reviews? Which ones? Here's 500 equally plausible alternative versions of all of those.
  - karendaves 3y ago
    [flagged]
  - karendaves 3y ago
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Noumenon72 3y ago
It seems like a more effective blackmail scheme than "here's some obviously AI generated images of you, imagine the shame!" would be "you uploaded pics to deepnude.cc on June 6 and we used facial recognition to find out it's your coworker. Should we tell them?"

xchip 3y ago

Great!

0xr0kk3r 3y ago

NGL: I'd watch a deepfake of me having sex with myself. It might lead to some "Being John Malkovich" trauma though.

prepend 3y ago

It’s funny as I remember as a kid people would argue against the sports illustrated swimsuit edition because it let people imagine the women without closed and that’s just wrong. And I wondered if places that require women to wear coverings had the same logic (ie,”if people see too much ankle they can imagine a bare leg”). My school once got penalized in a cheerleading competition because the uniforms only went over the knees instead of the other teams where it went to their ankles. What was the point as both wore bloomers underneath. However, I think it’s the idea of stopping people from thinking lascivious thoughts. I think it’s a losing battle as people have great imagination. I would have a problem if these deepnude sites had X-ray vision or something, but just predicting what someone looks like nude is hard to stop. Can you even make it illegal to imagine someone nude? I think we’ll find out soon in the next 20 years as people start adding “nude mode” to Apple Vision and Teams where all the attractive people appear nude.