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> I don't know they really like flying there Z swastika high and proud, they are indoctrinating their children with a hatred for a nation of people and to fight

> I don't know they really like flying there Z swastika high and proud, they are indoctrinating their children with a hatred for a nation of people and to fight in the future. They regularly call for the answer to the "Ukrainian question". There are extensive documentaries predating the war on the Ukrainian Fascists that use Nazi iconography - Right Sektor, Azov, etc. > This is in no way a exaggeration we know that Russia regularly tortures civilians, filtration camps have been Russias modus operandi for decades now, just look up the filtration camps from chechnya to know what these monsters are capable of. In war the first casualty is truth. > So whats your plan to get Russia out of Ukraine then? let them have whatever they want and let there crimes against humanity and the people of Ukraine go unanswered?. Russia is taking all the ethnic Russian areas of Ukraine, which means 4 more oblasts. > Sounds like your plan is for Ukraine to lay down and just let Russia do whatever they want. Ukraine is historically Russian though the borders have been fluid on the west flank where it fell under the Mongols, the Polish, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Duchy of Lithuania.

_kbh_ 3y ago
> There are extensive documentaries predating the war on the Ukrainian Fascists that use Nazi iconography - Right Sektor, Azov, etc. Same with Russia Nazi fascists everywhere, just look up the Wagner PMCs great SS lightning bolt lapel tattoos. The difference is the Z swastika in Russia is promoted and run by the government. > In war the first casualty is truth There’s truth and proof to everything I’ve said but I get the feeling you would deny the existence of concentration camps in WW2 by spouting the same nonsense. > Russia is taking all the ethnic Russian areas of Ukraine, which means 4 more oblasts. So your answer to getting Russia out of Ukraine is to give Russia parts of Ukraine. Russias actually lost its positions in massive amounts of land in Ukraine already in the past counter offensive and will lose more this time. > Ukraine is historically Russian though the borders have been fluid on the west flank where it fell under the Mongols, the Polish, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Duchy of Lithuania. What is this horseshit, Ukraine existed before Moscow was even on a map. If anything Russia is historically Ukrainian.
- OrvalWintermute 3y ago
  > If anything Russia is historically Ukrainian It was formed by the Russians (Rus People) and historically has been part of Russia.
  - lisasays 3y ago
    "Was a colony of Russia for a certain period", you meant to say. "Formed by Russians" is just nonsense.

_kbh_ 3y ago

> There are extensive documentaries predating the war on the Ukrainian Fascists that use Nazi iconography - Right Sektor, Azov, etc. Same with Russia Nazi fascists everywhere, just look up the Wagner PMCs great SS lightning bolt lapel tattoos. The difference is the Z swastika in Russia is promoted and run by the government. > In war the first casualty is truth There’s truth and proof to everything I’ve said but I get the feeling you would deny the existence of concentration camps in WW2 by spouting the same nonsense. > Russia is taking all the ethnic Russian areas of Ukraine, which means 4 more oblasts. So your answer to getting Russia out of Ukraine is to give Russia parts of Ukraine. Russias actually lost its positions in massive amounts of land in Ukraine already in the past counter offensive and will lose more this time. > Ukraine is historically Russian though the borders have been fluid on the west flank where it fell under the Mongols, the Polish, Austro-Hungarian Empire, and the Duchy of Lithuania. What is this horseshit, Ukraine existed before Moscow was even on a map. If anything Russia is historically Ukrainian.

OrvalWintermute 3y ago
> If anything Russia is historically Ukrainian It was formed by the Russians (Rus People) and historically has been part of Russia.
- lisasays 3y ago
  "Was a colony of Russia for a certain period", you meant to say. "Formed by Russians" is just nonsense.