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What about 4. A collection of shadows, mistakes, pilot fatigue, and instrument malfunction?

v0idzer0 3y ago
Too coincidental for pilot fatigue/shadows AND instrument malfunction to always happen at the same time in all of these cases. There are hundreds of reported instances in the past few years. This is simply not a serious explanation.
- SonicScrub 3y ago
  Strongly disagree. The sheer number of flight hours performed by all the world's professional pilots multiplied by the average percentage of a flight that a pilot could be considered to be "fatigued", multiplied by the odds of a cosmetic/minor sensor blip occuring is still an astronomically large number. That confluence of events probably happens quite regularity. This can be acendotealy verified hanging out at any general aviation flight club, and asking pilots about the times they got temporarily confused by some aerial phenomenon that turned out to be a strange reflection off a cloud. Happens literally all the time.
  - stevenhuang 3y ago
    I would encourage you to actually look into the sort of anomalous cases we're talking about here. https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20 https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20
wizofaus 3y ago
I'd even suggest a good percentage of reports are either deliberate hoaxes themselves or genuine reports of hoaxes carried out by others. If not hoaxes, then deliberate misreporting to cover up worse truths. Ultimately almost any other such explanation is vastly more likely than advanced alien species having crossed the galaxies (undetected) to visit us only to crash land on our little ball of rock.
belval 3y ago
Not really into UFOs myself, but that's not what the article (the whistleblower) is claiming: > “We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.” There is a difference between claiming to have seen the modern equivalent of the Loch Ness monster and saying "they have its body in a hangar".
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- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  Yeah. For example, in the Loch Ness example, they're at least claiming to have seen it.

Too coincidental for pilot fatigue/shadows AND instrument malfunction to always happen at the same time in all of these cases. There are hundreds of reported instances in the past few years. This is simply not a serious explanation.

SonicScrub 3y ago
Strongly disagree. The sheer number of flight hours performed by all the world's professional pilots multiplied by the average percentage of a flight that a pilot could be considered to be "fatigued", multiplied by the odds of a cosmetic/minor sensor blip occuring is still an astronomically large number. That confluence of events probably happens quite regularity. This can be acendotealy verified hanging out at any general aviation flight club, and asking pilots about the times they got temporarily confused by some aerial phenomenon that turned out to be a strange reflection off a cloud. Happens literally all the time.
- stevenhuang 3y ago
  I would encourage you to actually look into the sort of anomalous cases we're talking about here. https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20 https://www.narcap.org/blog/narcaptr20

wizofaus 3y ago

I'd even suggest a good percentage of reports are either deliberate hoaxes themselves or genuine reports of hoaxes carried out by others. If not hoaxes, then deliberate misreporting to cover up worse truths. Ultimately almost any other such explanation is vastly more likely than advanced alien species having crossed the galaxies (undetected) to visit us only to crash land on our little ball of rock.

belval 3y ago

Not really into UFOs myself, but that's not what the article (the whistleblower) is claiming: > “We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,” Grusch said. “The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.” There is a difference between claiming to have seen the modern equivalent of the Loch Ness monster and saying "they have its body in a hangar".

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spywaregorilla 3y ago
Yeah. For example, in the Loch Ness example, they're at least claiming to have seen it.