> actual graduates in the life sciences department at your local state school, and not just MD-PHDs That's me, graduate of a life science department at MD, mic

> actual graduates in the life sciences department at your local state school, and not just MD-PHDs That's me, graduate of a life science department at MD, microbiology not medical biology. Guess what, I always wanted to do research. Definitely didn't want to be a doctor, especially if a someone like, well, you, ended up being my patient. That makes three anecdotes to counter your assertion. You gonna pay up or move the goalposts a little more?