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> Why not just buy a Linux laptop Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding. I don’t see how making linux availabl

by kaba0 3y ago

> Why not just buy a Linux laptop Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding. I don’t see how making linux available on possibly the currently available best laptop hardware any different to the previous decades of hacking a working wifi driver into the kernel. It was always an uphill battle, and we should be thankful for those who take up the hard work!

josephcsible 3y ago
> Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding. System76? Star Labs? Purism? HP Dev One?
- hedora 3y ago
  System76 doesn't ship reasonable screens (they are all 144Hz 1080p): https://system76.com/laptops-ultraportables https://system76.com/laptops-ultraportables https://system76.com/laptops-powerful https://system76.com/laptops-powerful The only exception is the Bonobo, but it comes with a discrete GPU, so its battery life + weight are going to suck. Also, its keyboard is off center. Most of the star labs machines have low resolution displays, but I can find nothing wrong with this one. If you choose AMD, a reasonable config is $2600, which is comparable to Apple. However, they are only building 10,000 units, and taking preorders, so it might be unobtainable: https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter The purism offering seems OK except that it is a 10th generation intel, and those were extremely bad, even by recent intel standards. Maybe they'll get an AMD refresh out the door with the same ergonomics. The HP has an off-centered keyboard and trackpad and a 1080p display. So, of those four vendors, there's one model that's vaguely competitive, but it's a limited production run pre-order.
- sliken 3y ago
  HP Dev one works well, kudos to System76 for the desktop env. It has the worst LCD panel I've seen in many years. It's not the resolution just poor contrast and poor color accuracy. It pains me to see it. They went on sale recently, I bought one, and shortly afterwards (a few months ago) they stopped selling them.
ac29 3y ago
System76? Framework? Even Dell has a number of Linux laptops. If your requirements are "must run an Apple designed ARM processor", then yes, your choices are pretty limited.
- nsonha 3y ago
  ANY arm processor, do tell
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Any? https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Flex_3_Chromebook_(MT8183)_(google-fennel) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Flex_3_Chr... is dirt cheap and runs PMOS quite well. Actually Chromebooks in general are a good bet when combined with PMOS - or even not combined with PMOS, if you can work with a normal Linux VM on top of ChromeOS.
    - nsonha 3y ago
      well obviously not a machine with 4GB of RAM running outdated CPU
      - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
        You said "ANY arm processor". If you'd like to further constrain the exact requirements, that would be a useful clarification. (Although, I suspect that some Chromebook will still work)
        nsonha 3y ago
        It's to respond to the remark that people are simping for Apple while in fact, they're just after a good arm-based laptop.
  - floatboth 3y ago
    Thinkpad x13s is an okay option, but Qualcomm is IMO more cursed than Apple
cultofmetatron 3y ago
system 76 makes linux ready hardware. personally I'm waiting for a framework which does have some linux support

by kaba0 3y ago

josephcsible 3y ago

> Please tell me where is it because I will buy it instantly, and I’m only half kidding. System76? Star Labs? Purism? HP Dev One?

hedora 3y ago
System76 doesn't ship reasonable screens (they are all 144Hz 1080p): https://system76.com/laptops-ultraportables https://system76.com/laptops-ultraportables https://system76.com/laptops-powerful https://system76.com/laptops-powerful The only exception is the Bonobo, but it comes with a discrete GPU, so its battery life + weight are going to suck. Also, its keyboard is off center. Most of the star labs machines have low resolution displays, but I can find nothing wrong with this one. If you choose AMD, a reasonable config is $2600, which is comparable to Apple. However, they are only building 10,000 units, and taking preorders, so it might be unobtainable: https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter https://us.starlabs.systems/pages/starfighter The purism offering seems OK except that it is a 10th generation intel, and those were extremely bad, even by recent intel standards. Maybe they'll get an AMD refresh out the door with the same ergonomics. The HP has an off-centered keyboard and trackpad and a 1080p display. So, of those four vendors, there's one model that's vaguely competitive, but it's a limited production run pre-order.
sliken 3y ago
HP Dev one works well, kudos to System76 for the desktop env. It has the worst LCD panel I've seen in many years. It's not the resolution just poor contrast and poor color accuracy. It pains me to see it. They went on sale recently, I bought one, and shortly afterwards (a few months ago) they stopped selling them.

ac29 3y ago

System76? Framework? Even Dell has a number of Linux laptops. If your requirements are "must run an Apple designed ARM processor", then yes, your choices are pretty limited.

nsonha 3y ago
ANY arm processor, do tell
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  Any? https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Flex_3_Chromebook_(MT8183)_(google-fennel) https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Lenovo_IdeaPad_Flex_3_Chr... is dirt cheap and runs PMOS quite well. Actually Chromebooks in general are a good bet when combined with PMOS - or even not combined with PMOS, if you can work with a normal Linux VM on top of ChromeOS.
  - nsonha 3y ago
    well obviously not a machine with 4GB of RAM running outdated CPU
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      You said "ANY arm processor". If you'd like to further constrain the exact requirements, that would be a useful clarification. (Although, I suspect that some Chromebook will still work)
      - nsonha 3y ago
        It's to respond to the remark that people are simping for Apple while in fact, they're just after a good arm-based laptop.
- floatboth 3y ago
  Thinkpad x13s is an okay option, but Qualcomm is IMO more cursed than Apple

cultofmetatron 3y ago

system 76 makes linux ready hardware. personally I'm waiting for a framework which does have some linux support