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Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people

Right... so this thing hooked up to a centralized AI, deciding what people see when, how often they see it, what they can express and how they feel... Do people really want to live in the matrix? I have a visceral reaction to this idea

seba_dos1 3y ago
This could be exciting if the user was in control (FLOSS). The user is not, so it's nightmarish instead.
mynameisvlad 3y ago
Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI? Apple’s buzzword of the day yesterday was “on-device processing” and “on-device X” in general. They have invested heavily for years now into shipping ML chips in their devices and don’t seem to be stopping; if anything they’re increasing the use of it. Is there anything definitively claiming this would be any different?
- BasedAnon 3y ago
  > Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI? I'm talking about the infrastructure not this device necessarily
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jodrellblank 3y ago
https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vis... says "Where a user looks stays private while navigating Apple Vision Pro, and eye tracking information is not shared with Apple, third-party apps, or websites. Additionally, data from the camera and other sensors is processed at the system level, so individual apps do not need to see a user’s surroundings to enable spatial experiences."
- BasedAnon 3y ago
  I'm not suggesting it currently has this functionality
  - jodrellblank 3y ago
    Then I guess the answer to your off-topic "do people want a strawman horrible future I just imagined?" is "no".
    - BasedAnon 3y ago
      It's not a strawman when people openly declare their intent to create such a thing
- m4rtink 3y ago
  Unless the code is fully free software that has been audited by enough people & there is a proof the binaries on the device correspond to this source code, then this means nothing.
- KaiserPro 3y ago
  I mean, thats patent bullshit. sorry, but the eye gase vector will will easy to infer by where its rendering stuff, and where the gesture system is triggered. Sure apps wont get a look in to the shape of the room persay, but again you can infer it when looking for occlusions.

seba_dos1 3y ago

This could be exciting if the user was in control (FLOSS). The user is not, so it's nightmarish instead.

mynameisvlad 3y ago

Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI? Apple’s buzzword of the day yesterday was “on-device processing” and “on-device X” in general. They have invested heavily for years now into shipping ML chips in their devices and don’t seem to be stopping; if anything they’re increasing the use of it. Is there anything definitively claiming this would be any different?

BasedAnon 3y ago
> Who said it’s hooked up to a centralized AI? I'm talking about the infrastructure not this device necessarily
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jodrellblank 3y ago

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vision-pro/ https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/06/introducing-apple-vis... says "Where a user looks stays private while navigating Apple Vision Pro, and eye tracking information is not shared with Apple, third-party apps, or websites. Additionally, data from the camera and other sensors is processed at the system level, so individual apps do not need to see a user’s surroundings to enable spatial experiences."

BasedAnon 3y ago
I'm not suggesting it currently has this functionality
- jodrellblank 3y ago
  Then I guess the answer to your off-topic "do people want a strawman horrible future I just imagined?" is "no".
  - BasedAnon 3y ago
    It's not a strawman when people openly declare their intent to create such a thing
m4rtink 3y ago
Unless the code is fully free software that has been audited by enough people & there is a proof the binaries on the device correspond to this source code, then this means nothing.
KaiserPro 3y ago
I mean, thats patent bullshit. sorry, but the eye gase vector will will easy to infer by where its rendering stuff, and where the gesture system is triggered. Sure apps wont get a look in to the shape of the room persay, but again you can infer it when looking for occlusions.