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How long until they decide mounting guns on these things is a good idea?
by dingledork69 3y ago
How long until they decide mounting guns on these things is a good idea?
- greesil 3y agoDon't worry, they'll start with tasers.
- insickness 3y agoFlamethrower drone can shoot a seven-metre long stream of fire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3_eEO0Cvwg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3_eEO0Cvwg
- davidu 3y agoTasers aren't bullets. The narrative on tasers has long-shifted to it being preferred over deadly force. Tasers promote the elimination of police bullets.
- pc86 3y agoNonsense. The line is between "armed" and "not armed." It's much easier to justify adding lethal capability to something that already has the ability to subdue people (and kill them accidentally) than it to justify arming something that is completely unarmed.
- jonathankoren 3y agoTasers absolutely do not reduce police shootings. In fact, they increase police violence. Instead they’re used — frequently in violation of official police policy — as compliance devices. In other words, if you’re found guilty of contempt of cop, you ride the lightning. The problem with cops aren’t the tools. The problem with cops are the cops. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/20/tasers-stun-guns-police-shootings-daunte-wright https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/20/tasers-stun-...
- hellisothers 3y agoDon’t tase me drone!
- Glant 3y agoSan Francisco almost had exactly that. The policy was reversed after about a week of outrage. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/30/san-francisco-police-robots-kill/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/11/30/san-francis...
- soco 3y agoThe article, the people on SF board, and everybody else seems to confuse remote-controlled devices with AI-powered ones. To me the difference is essential: why I might agree to remote controlled devices carrying out the operator orders (I might), I definitely am very very, but very very very far from trusting an AI with carrying a weapon (I already don't trust humans that much).
- Glant 3y agoImo it's an issue either way. I'm absolutely with you that AI shouldn't have guns, but I don't think police should have any remotely activated guns.
- dingledork69 3y agoI'm of the firm belief that if you want to inflict violence on someone there should be physical risk for those that want to inflict the violence. So that's a no to any kind of remote controlled murderbots.
- oh_sigh 3y agoUsually people protecting the public from violence don't really want to commit the violence themselves. they probably wish they were having a boring normal old day instead of needing to confront an active shooter. So do you think the police were being lame by taking out Micah Xavier Johnson with a remote controlled vehicle, rather than breaching his position personally?
- ImPostingOnHN 3y agoI'm sure that is often the case, and often not the case, judging by the glorification of violence and killing common with police today. It's important to differentiate being brave enough to put yourself in harm's way vs. glorifying violence. Policing requires the first one, not the second. Unfortunately, while the latter is seen often in officers, Uvalde showed us that the former may not be. and speaking for myself, yes, very much so, that domestic drone killing was a dark day for the country and a harbinger of things to come
- ticviking 3y agoAbout 10 seconds after the first one gets shot down.
- rch 3y agoNon-lethal munitions can also be deadly. I could imagine drones delivering flash-bangs and the like to fleeing suspects, and all the associated risks.
- dronekiller 3y ago> How long until they decide mounting guns on these things is a good idea? Got you covered https://www.anduril.com/ https://www.anduril.com/
- itsyaboi 3y agoI don't see any drone mounted guns.
- Tade0 3y agoFunny you should ask: https://www.wired.com/2009/04/army-tests-new/ https://www.wired.com/2009/04/army-tests-new/
- dingledork69 3y agoThe only words I can find to describe this are "dystopian" and "evil". Murdering someone by remote control is just wrong on so many levels.
- wahnfrieden 3y agoUS already does it to civs by the thousands, materially speaking.
- dingledork69 3y agoCan you explain what you are referring to?
- wahnfrieden 3y agoDrone murders abroad
- dingledork69 3y agoOh I thought you meant they already escalated to targeting their own civilians. But yes, absolutely despicable. It's no surprise the US is so concerned about "terrorists" when they seem to be on a fast-track to breeding them.
- optymizer 3y agoWe need EMPs to shoot down drones.
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