> On the first model, and an intuitive one, it was the effort to pick up the items that was the negative stimuli. So the treatment is: learn to enjoy tidying, e

> On the first model, and an intuitive one, it was the effort to pick up the items that was the negative stimuli. So the treatment is: learn to enjoy tidying, etc. Hmm. The negative stimuli here should be when something breaks. You'll always have to make some efforts to tidy things up, so it can't be a negative stimuli in itself because it's not one of the outcomes. Here it's a positive punishment (broken things should lead you to change the original behavior) (actually, not tidying up has its own positive reinforcement stimuli: you don't have to make efforts). > I havent learnt to enjoy anything more. Rather, I've started rehabituating my self of control -- by even trivial changes, I am strengthening that sense. The items of my apartment more clearly appear as objects that I can control, rather than a chaotic environment that's beyond control. Yes, there it is: positive stimuli reinforcing behavior. Which works better than positive punishment (or so I learned decades ago in psy101 ?).