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curious how typing on a keyboard will work don't recall seeing that on the presentation.. also 2hrs battery, on a flight can you carry those... inconvenient

curious how typing on a keyboard will work don't recall seeing that on the presentation.. also 2hrs battery, on a flight can you carry those... inconvenient (impractical?)

moolcool 3y ago
Most planes have power at the seats though, I don't think it'd be too hard to wear this on a plane.
simse 3y ago
You look at the letters on the keyboard, and "tap" by pinching your fingers. You can also just look at an input and start speaking.
- sidibe 3y ago
  So like a HL2. Typing on Hololens sucks using voice or eye tracking. You'll want a Bluetooth keyboard about 5 minutes after you get this thing
leesalminen 3y ago
According to MKBHD’s video, you just look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger. They also mentioned in the keynote you can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and type on that.
- sidibe 3y ago
  > you just look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger. This has been used on many other devices and is miserable, it's like using the joystick to type on a game console
  - whynaut 3y ago
    Watch Marques Brownlee's video on it. It's vastly better than anything before it in both hand- and eye-tracking.
    - 5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
      i feel like brownlee is an apple "shill" or at least he knows not to say anything critical - it's business.
      - whynaut 3y ago
        he makes criticisms all the time though. I don't understand why people make these sorts of claims about people if they don't watch them.
      - reaperman 3y ago
        His video had lots of harsh criticism of many features of this headset that probably cost Apple $100MM each to build. Several parts of the demo were met with Brownlee's condescension, but one part even seemed to earn his condemnation: the part which implicitly required a dad weirdly wearing this at his child's birthday celebration so that it could be replayed in the future.
    - sidibe 3y ago
      For the first few minutes I thought Hololens was fun too with ET. If you have to look at a lot of letters you are going to get tired of it fast no matter how good it is. It's just not a great input method for typing compared to a real keyboard. If they are so good at hand tracking it'd be better if they put a virtual keyboard on a surface near you that you can type on (I bet they'll have that option eventually)
      - whynaut 3y ago
        that virtual keyboard option was already in the keynote. There are also videos of just connecting bluetooth keyboards.
- 5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
  > look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger it sounds kind of exhausting, but i guess have to try it to know for sure.
scyzoryk_xyz 3y ago
They showed it, but didn't really focus on it. They also mentioned pairing with their magic keyboards and other peripherals. I experimented with a keyboard/mouse in an Oculus headset and having physical keys under your fingers is much better. Only problem was that I couldn't see the keyboard inside the headset which was a bummer.
danpalmer 3y ago
> 2hrs battery, on a flight can you even carry those... Most flights have plug sockets now don't they, you're sitting down in a confined space, it seems fine to plug it in. Any even if you can't plug it in, I'd guarantee it'll be below the 100Wh restriction that almost all airlines use, there aren't really any consumer electronics batteries above this precisely because you can't travel with them. They would also be huge and heavy.
vhold 3y ago
A possible nice thing about it being an external battery is that (presuming they will sell them individually) you can carry more than one.

curious how typing on a keyboard will work don't recall seeing that on the presentation.. also 2hrs battery, on a flight can you carry those... inconvenient (impractical?)

moolcool 3y ago

Most planes have power at the seats though, I don't think it'd be too hard to wear this on a plane.

simse 3y ago

You look at the letters on the keyboard, and "tap" by pinching your fingers. You can also just look at an input and start speaking.

sidibe 3y ago
So like a HL2. Typing on Hololens sucks using voice or eye tracking. You'll want a Bluetooth keyboard about 5 minutes after you get this thing

leesalminen 3y ago

According to MKBHD’s video, you just look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger. They also mentioned in the keynote you can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and type on that.

sidibe 3y ago
> you just look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger. This has been used on many other devices and is miserable, it's like using the joystick to type on a game console
- whynaut 3y ago
  Watch Marques Brownlee's video on it. It's vastly better than anything before it in both hand- and eye-tracking.
  - 5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
    i feel like brownlee is an apple "shill" or at least he knows not to say anything critical - it's business.
    - whynaut 3y ago
      he makes criticisms all the time though. I don't understand why people make these sorts of claims about people if they don't watch them.
    - reaperman 3y ago
      His video had lots of harsh criticism of many features of this headset that probably cost Apple $100MM each to build. Several parts of the demo were met with Brownlee's condescension, but one part even seemed to earn his condemnation: the part which implicitly required a dad weirdly wearing this at his child's birthday celebration so that it could be replayed in the future.
  - sidibe 3y ago
    For the first few minutes I thought Hololens was fun too with ET. If you have to look at a lot of letters you are going to get tired of it fast no matter how good it is. It's just not a great input method for typing compared to a real keyboard. If they are so good at hand tracking it'd be better if they put a virtual keyboard on a surface near you that you can type on (I bet they'll have that option eventually)
    - whynaut 3y ago
      that virtual keyboard option was already in the keynote. There are also videos of just connecting bluetooth keyboards.
5350-uiop-1130 3y ago
> look at the key you want on the on-screen keyboard and then click it by touching your thumb and index finger it sounds kind of exhausting, but i guess have to try it to know for sure.

scyzoryk_xyz 3y ago

They showed it, but didn't really focus on it. They also mentioned pairing with their magic keyboards and other peripherals. I experimented with a keyboard/mouse in an Oculus headset and having physical keys under your fingers is much better. Only problem was that I couldn't see the keyboard inside the headset which was a bummer.

danpalmer 3y ago

> 2hrs battery, on a flight can you even carry those... Most flights have plug sockets now don't they, you're sitting down in a confined space, it seems fine to plug it in. Any even if you can't plug it in, I'd guarantee it'll be below the 100Wh restriction that almost all airlines use, there aren't really any consumer electronics batteries above this precisely because you can't travel with them. They would also be huge and heavy.

vhold 3y ago

A possible nice thing about it being an external battery is that (presuming they will sell them individually) you can carry more than one.