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To everyone complaining about the price, let's add Steve Ballmer to the studio, he will give some weight to your words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENF

by jve 3y ago

To everyone complaining about the price, let's add Steve Ballmer to the studio, he will give some weight to your words: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENFIBs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qycUOENFIBs

ricardobayes 3y ago
It never made sense back then and neither does now. The new iPhone is what, the best part of 1300 Euros here in Spain. A full monthly salary...
- jve 3y ago
  > It never made sense back then and neither does now Well, Apple was the first 1T company. I don't know which grade they were learning me that companies maximize profits and minimize expenses. Until it works for Apple, they will happily put whatever price tag. It makes no sense to complain. People will either complain with wallet (not able to buy it) or Apple will just continue to be a behemot.
- spaceman_2020 3y ago
  Here in India, they've been handing out discounts. Got a new iPhone 14 after exchange for $600. The competition is almost the same price. The Macbooks look expensive too until you compare them to similar Windows laptops with equivalent screens, trackpads, and battery life.
  - op00to 3y ago
    “After exchange”. What’s the total price before the value of the trade in phone? Jeez.
    - spaceman_2020 3y ago
      Before any discounts, exchanges or offers, the Galaxy S23 is $925. The iPhone 14 is $986.
      - bjelkeman-again 3y ago
        So if the €1300 above includes the VAT, then we are in the same ballpark.
- asimpletune 3y ago
  Apple's position, in so many words, is that if you want a cheaper iPhone, buy an older model. Their products are so good, that the budget model is just the old one. For example, I have an iPhone 11. I got it the day it came out, and I really don't need another phone. I will continue to use this one until it breaks, or probably for another 5 years, whichever comes first. Maybe for some people, it's beneath them to buy an older, even if it's professionally refurbished and warranted, but to me that says something about the quality. Last example. My brother in law was once complaining to me about how Apple is trash and that they purposely slow down their phones and that it's all a conspiracy. I asked him what phone he had and he told me an iPhone 5s! I was so impressed that he didn't even notice how outrageous this was.
  - neuronic 3y ago
    That's to the point. There is also less and less reason to upgrade quickly nowadays. My phone is a 12 Pro and I see less than zero need to upgrade. For example, 120Hz display is super nice but downgrading from it is far more jarring than upgrading to it is beneficial. 60Hz is absolutely good enough for years but only if it isn't a downgrade from 120Hz. I can also see my M1 MBP last as long as my trusty 2009 MBP which crapped out around 2016 (7 years!). It also means less waste and less consumerism which is a positive byproduct in my mind.
    - duffyjp 3y ago
      My 2011 MBP is still going strong. With 16gb ram and an SSD it's honestly not even slow unless you have to compile something.

by jve 3y ago

ricardobayes 3y ago

It never made sense back then and neither does now. The new iPhone is what, the best part of 1300 Euros here in Spain. A full monthly salary...

jve 3y ago
> It never made sense back then and neither does now Well, Apple was the first 1T company. I don't know which grade they were learning me that companies maximize profits and minimize expenses. Until it works for Apple, they will happily put whatever price tag. It makes no sense to complain. People will either complain with wallet (not able to buy it) or Apple will just continue to be a behemot.
spaceman_2020 3y ago
Here in India, they've been handing out discounts. Got a new iPhone 14 after exchange for $600. The competition is almost the same price. The Macbooks look expensive too until you compare them to similar Windows laptops with equivalent screens, trackpads, and battery life.
- op00to 3y ago
  “After exchange”. What’s the total price before the value of the trade in phone? Jeez.
  - spaceman_2020 3y ago
    Before any discounts, exchanges or offers, the Galaxy S23 is $925. The iPhone 14 is $986.
    - bjelkeman-again 3y ago
      So if the €1300 above includes the VAT, then we are in the same ballpark.
asimpletune 3y ago
Apple's position, in so many words, is that if you want a cheaper iPhone, buy an older model. Their products are so good, that the budget model is just the old one. For example, I have an iPhone 11. I got it the day it came out, and I really don't need another phone. I will continue to use this one until it breaks, or probably for another 5 years, whichever comes first. Maybe for some people, it's beneath them to buy an older, even if it's professionally refurbished and warranted, but to me that says something about the quality. Last example. My brother in law was once complaining to me about how Apple is trash and that they purposely slow down their phones and that it's all a conspiracy. I asked him what phone he had and he told me an iPhone 5s! I was so impressed that he didn't even notice how outrageous this was.
- neuronic 3y ago
  That's to the point. There is also less and less reason to upgrade quickly nowadays. My phone is a 12 Pro and I see less than zero need to upgrade. For example, 120Hz display is super nice but downgrading from it is far more jarring than upgrading to it is beneficial. 60Hz is absolutely good enough for years but only if it isn't a downgrade from 120Hz. I can also see my M1 MBP last as long as my trusty 2009 MBP which crapped out around 2016 (7 years!). It also means less waste and less consumerism which is a positive byproduct in my mind.
  - duffyjp 3y ago
    My 2011 MBP is still going strong. With 16gb ram and an SSD it's honestly not even slow unless you have to compile something.