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Russia has blown up major Ukrainian dam

20 points by lovelyviking 3y ago

mytailorisrich 3y ago
Actual title is "Russia has blown up major Ukrainian dam, says Kyiv"
- lovelyviking 3y ago
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  - mytailorisrich 3y ago
    No. When you posted the actual title was as stated in my previous comment and has now been changed to "Zelensky says Russia blew up dam as thousands evacuated from flood". Please refrain from editing titles.
    - lovelyviking 3y ago
      Like I said the title was correct and meant to say exactly what it says, the title of BBC was not. Like I said, BBC is getting there … hopefully . I am not going to edit the reality just because BBC is slow. Like I said I took their article as related, nothing more. The idea of title is to express the essence of the topic shortly. BBC have to put some bs at the end because they have failed to work an find out but I do not have to. Actually if we think about it they do not have to as well. Their role and obligation should be to deliver what really has happened, the objective reality. Not the middle between lie and reality which is a lie by definition and not ‘this side have said this’ and ‘other side have said that’ and BBC have no idea what is credible. What they do is not journalism , it is a BS picture that does not represent the objective reality. Please refrain from editing me and trying to edit the real event. The same goes for BBC which should also refrain from this.
ngcc_hk 3y ago
It is not their country and their places. Hence they can blow up not just dam.
- gdy 3y ago
  Actually, according to Putin Kherson region is part of Russia.
hunglee2 3y ago
The confidence of this assertion is at odds with the what is currently known, and in-line with the war of narrative, another fiercely contested front of this conflict. Perhaps nothing corrodes the truth more than war - I wonder what the second order effect this will have on how people view media going forward; we can only ever be more distrustful, and more skeptical of whatever we're being asked to believe
- lovelyviking 3y ago
  >The confidence of this assertion is at odds with the what is currently known It is unclear what you mean by ‘known’. Known to whom? To you? To BBC? If it’s not known to you or to BBC it doesn’t mean it’s not known. It means it’s not known to you or/and BBC. The title I provided is not at odds to what is known to me. >.. and in-line with the war of narrative, another fiercely contested front of this conflict. It is in-line with what well known about the dam construction and russian preparations to blow it more than half a year ago already. It would be interesting to see you analyse your own efforts here to see how much they are ‘in-line with the war of narrative’ > I wonder what the second order effect this will have … well, possibly some people would prefer to dwell into entertaining philosophy and contribute to creation of right amount of fog to hide the truth and own ignorance.
  - gdy 3y ago
    "what well known" From what sources? Kiev?
    - lovelyviking 3y ago
      from many, but you probably would prefer your russian friends speaking half a year ago about planting explosives into the dam. https://nitter.hu/Gerashchenko_en/status/1666061532080361472#m https://nitter.hu/Gerashchenko_en/status/1666061532080361472...
      - gdy 3y ago
        I have no idea who these people are, but let's grant you the benefit of the doubt. Don't you think that blowing the dam now was premature and pointless?

20 points by lovelyviking 3y ago

mytailorisrich 3y ago

Actual title is "Russia has blown up major Ukrainian dam, says Kyiv"

lovelyviking 3y ago
[flagged]
- mytailorisrich 3y ago
  No. When you posted the actual title was as stated in my previous comment and has now been changed to "Zelensky says Russia blew up dam as thousands evacuated from flood". Please refrain from editing titles.
  - lovelyviking 3y ago
    Like I said the title was correct and meant to say exactly what it says, the title of BBC was not. Like I said, BBC is getting there … hopefully . I am not going to edit the reality just because BBC is slow. Like I said I took their article as related, nothing more. The idea of title is to express the essence of the topic shortly. BBC have to put some bs at the end because they have failed to work an find out but I do not have to. Actually if we think about it they do not have to as well. Their role and obligation should be to deliver what really has happened, the objective reality. Not the middle between lie and reality which is a lie by definition and not ‘this side have said this’ and ‘other side have said that’ and BBC have no idea what is credible. What they do is not journalism , it is a BS picture that does not represent the objective reality. Please refrain from editing me and trying to edit the real event. The same goes for BBC which should also refrain from this.

ngcc_hk 3y ago

It is not their country and their places. Hence they can blow up not just dam.

gdy 3y ago
Actually, according to Putin Kherson region is part of Russia.

hunglee2 3y ago

The confidence of this assertion is at odds with the what is currently known, and in-line with the war of narrative, another fiercely contested front of this conflict. Perhaps nothing corrodes the truth more than war - I wonder what the second order effect this will have on how people view media going forward; we can only ever be more distrustful, and more skeptical of whatever we're being asked to believe

lovelyviking 3y ago
>The confidence of this assertion is at odds with the what is currently known It is unclear what you mean by ‘known’. Known to whom? To you? To BBC? If it’s not known to you or to BBC it doesn’t mean it’s not known. It means it’s not known to you or/and BBC. The title I provided is not at odds to what is known to me. >.. and in-line with the war of narrative, another fiercely contested front of this conflict. It is in-line with what well known about the dam construction and russian preparations to blow it more than half a year ago already. It would be interesting to see you analyse your own efforts here to see how much they are ‘in-line with the war of narrative’ > I wonder what the second order effect this will have … well, possibly some people would prefer to dwell into entertaining philosophy and contribute to creation of right amount of fog to hide the truth and own ignorance.
- gdy 3y ago
  "what well known" From what sources? Kiev?
  - lovelyviking 3y ago
    from many, but you probably would prefer your russian friends speaking half a year ago about planting explosives into the dam. https://nitter.hu/Gerashchenko_en/status/1666061532080361472#m https://nitter.hu/Gerashchenko_en/status/1666061532080361472...
    - gdy 3y ago
      I have no idea who these people are, but let's grant you the benefit of the doubt. Don't you think that blowing the dam now was premature and pointless?