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So, much the same as at the moment where if there isn't a version of Flash (or Silverlight) for a particular platform then you can't watch Netflix/Hulu/Whatever

So, much the same as at the moment where if there isn't a version of Flash (or Silverlight) for a particular platform then you can't watch Netflix/Hulu/Whatever.

TeMPOraL 15y ago
Point me to a platform without Flash support. EDIT: I meant, show me a platform where users can't get Flash for free easily. AFAIR on Windows, Unix and MacOS (I used only the first two) you can just download a free player...
- planb 15y ago
  http://www.apple.com/ios/ http://www.apple.com/ios/ However - I don't think Apple would implement these extensions in Safari...
  - TeMPOraL 15y ago
    Ok, fair enough.
- deleted 15y ago
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- r0s 15y ago
  My favorite underdog platform is Nintendo's 3DS. No flash support, but it does have a browser and a Netflix app.
- lucian1900 15y ago
  Desktop linux from now on.
- rmc 15y ago
  Any non-x86 Linux e.g. powerpc Linux, I had this problem when I installed ubuntu on an ibook. Admittedly powerpc isn't being sold as much as it was.
dchest 15y ago
You cannot watch Netflix/Hulu/Whatever because they refuse to provide their video in the standards-compliant way. This is not a technical problem.
- JeremyBanks 15y ago
  Is there an existing standards-compliant way to stream video cross-platform? Does it support DRM? There's certainly a technical factor here, even if the media ecosystem is also to blame.
  - dchest 15y ago
    There is a standards-compliant way to deliver video. It's not streaming, but their use doesn't require streaming. There's, thankfully, no web standard for DRM. For an example of standards-compliant way to deliver video, turn on HTML5 support on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5) and watch this awesome movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jVlt-d8W8&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jVlt-d8W8&feature=watch... See, no technical issues.
    - tadfisher 15y ago
      Just to be pedantic, I experience technical issues with HTML5 playback in Chromium 17 on Linux. The video seems to be playing at 1.5x speed, and sound is extremely choppy. Flash works fine.
      - DrJokepu 15y ago
        The support for the audio and video elements in browsers is still rather basic and unreliable. Shockingly enough, in my experience at least, IE9 has the best support for HTML5 audio / video, with Safari on OS X (not Windows) being second best.
- mikeryan 15y ago
  Netflix/Hulu aren't making these decisions unilaterally. They have to meet DRM requirements set by the Studios. You seem to want to demonize Netflix/MS/Google/Hulu for this but I'm having a hard time doing so when they seem to be trying to evolve standards to meet current market conditions.

So, much the same as at the moment where if there isn't a version of Flash (or Silverlight) for a particular platform then you can't watch Netflix/Hulu/Whatever.

TeMPOraL 15y ago

Point me to a platform without Flash support. EDIT: I meant, show me a platform where users can't get Flash for free easily. AFAIR on Windows, Unix and MacOS (I used only the first two) you can just download a free player...

planb 15y ago
http://www.apple.com/ios/ http://www.apple.com/ios/ However - I don't think Apple would implement these extensions in Safari...
- TeMPOraL 15y ago
  Ok, fair enough.
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r0s 15y ago
My favorite underdog platform is Nintendo's 3DS. No flash support, but it does have a browser and a Netflix app.
lucian1900 15y ago
Desktop linux from now on.
rmc 15y ago
Any non-x86 Linux e.g. powerpc Linux, I had this problem when I installed ubuntu on an ibook. Admittedly powerpc isn't being sold as much as it was.

dchest 15y ago

You cannot watch Netflix/Hulu/Whatever because they refuse to provide their video in the standards-compliant way. This is not a technical problem.

JeremyBanks 15y ago
Is there an existing standards-compliant way to stream video cross-platform? Does it support DRM? There's certainly a technical factor here, even if the media ecosystem is also to blame.
- dchest 15y ago
  There is a standards-compliant way to deliver video. It's not streaming, but their use doesn't require streaming. There's, thankfully, no web standard for DRM. For an example of standards-compliant way to deliver video, turn on HTML5 support on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/html5 http://www.youtube.com/html5) and watch this awesome movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jVlt-d8W8&feature=watch-now-button&wide=1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jVlt-d8W8&feature=watch... See, no technical issues.
  - tadfisher 15y ago
    Just to be pedantic, I experience technical issues with HTML5 playback in Chromium 17 on Linux. The video seems to be playing at 1.5x speed, and sound is extremely choppy. Flash works fine.
    - DrJokepu 15y ago
      The support for the audio and video elements in browsers is still rather basic and unreliable. Shockingly enough, in my experience at least, IE9 has the best support for HTML5 audio / video, with Safari on OS X (not Windows) being second best.
mikeryan 15y ago
Netflix/Hulu aren't making these decisions unilaterally. They have to meet DRM requirements set by the Studios. You seem to want to demonize Netflix/MS/Google/Hulu for this but I'm having a hard time doing so when they seem to be trying to evolve standards to meet current market conditions.