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Same pattern over and over, futuristic hardware, closed source software. This looks boring to me. I don't expect anything ground breaking from it. It's gonna be

Same pattern over and over, futuristic hardware, closed source software. This looks boring to me. I don't expect anything ground breaking from it. It's gonna be an iphone sticked to your eyes. Those big tech companies remove all the fun and excitement we used to have with new hardware. We know how it's gonna behave and it's limitation before it's released to the public.

eternityforest 3y ago
When Apple does something new, everyone else generally has it in a few years. There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually and anyone will be able to make their app have virtual space widgets or something. Of course that doesn't guarantee anyone will actually do anything cool with it, but they'll be able to.
- jdironman 3y ago
  I think with the Oculus, at least when developing with Unity, you target the Android platform. I'll admit I've never actually looked at what is under the hood in the Quest.
  - jayd16 3y ago
    Yep, just Android. Uses the android SDK and tools.
- RobotToaster 3y ago
  >There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually Google glass?
  - eternityforest 3y ago
    Yeah, like that, but a version that people actually want!
  - XorNot 3y ago
    Glass had the misfortune of a limited rollout and landed at exactly the wrong moment for people to lose their mind about a camera being "on". Because fast forward to now and the horse has bolted into the glue factory.
  - jayd16 3y ago
    It wasn't Android and not even more than a very simple hud.
- AshamedCaptain 3y ago
  > There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually How many Android for eyeballs has Google released already? I count at least 3. - Whatever Cardboard was using (2013ish) - Daydream platform (2016ish) - Whatever Samsung Gear VR used (2018ish) All of them nice gimmicks, but also commercial failures and abandoned.
  - DonHopkins 3y ago
    You missed Showers for Glassholes. https://www.siliconrepublic.com/gear/robert-scoble-wears-google-glass-in-the-shower-memes https://www.siliconrepublic.com/gear/robert-scoble-wears-goo...
7e 3y ago
Open source software developers could never approach the masterpiece of software craftsmanship is on display here. Only exceptional, highly paid professionals with intense focus can achieve this. Generally, those who can, do and get paid handsomely, those who can't, pretend by volunteering their open source. We're talking Hollywood composer vs. music teacher, here.
- wickedsickeune 3y ago
  The best software I've ever used is git and it's FOSS. The closed source alternatives don't even come close, even on niche usecases.
  - 7e 3y ago
    You should try Google and Facebook's internal SCM tools. Better than Git by miles. Git itself was a copy of the real innovator in the space, BitKeeper. Git, being free, has undercut commercial solutions, and that market is now a wasteland.
    - maigret 3y ago
      Interestingly GitHub and GitLab have captured most of that market by plugging the gaps in the developer journey. I sometimes use git standalone for personal work but wouldn't dare for a bigger project.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - hhjinks 3y ago
      What makes those solutions better?
- pharmakom 3y ago
  don't check the license section of your latest iGizmo.
- DoesntMatter22 3y ago
akmarinov 3y ago
You say you don’t expect anything groundbreaking and then compare it with arguably the most groundbreaking product ever
- Mordisquitos 3y ago
  But the comparison is that it is "[arguably the most groundbreaking product ever] sticked to your eyes", and the property of groundbreakingness is not necessarily transitive.
- dandellion 3y ago
  If you make a list of groundbreaking products that would include the light bulb, the bicycle, the refrigerator, the radio, the car, printed books, the newspaper, the TV, personal computers, mobile phones... The iPhone is great, but I doubt it could even make it to the top ten.
  - ifyoubuildit 3y ago
    This is what Apple really sells. I read parent's comment and was sorta nodding along, and then read yours and realized 1) it's kind of a ludicrous statement, and 2) it sounded reasonable to me. Marketing works.
  - artimaeis 3y ago
    I feel like comparing categories of products to an individual make of product is a bit unfair. Like, of course the car was a world-changing invention. And Ford's original model T remains a significant point of the history of automobiles. The smartphone was certainly a world-changing invention, and it seems the iPhone was just as historically significant to it as a technology. I don't think the LG Prada is going to be so thoroughly remembered by history.
  - akmarinov 3y ago
    The things you list aren't products, they're the inventions. The car is the invention, a car product is a Tesla. The TV is the invention, a TV product is the LG OLED CX. I'm not saying the iPhone is the greatest invention ever (though the telephone might be). I'm saying that it's one of the most groundbreaking and transformative products ever. Hope that clears it up.
suction 3y ago
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eternityforest 3y ago

When Apple does something new, everyone else generally has it in a few years. There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually and anyone will be able to make their app have virtual space widgets or something. Of course that doesn't guarantee anyone will actually do anything cool with it, but they'll be able to.

jdironman 3y ago
I think with the Oculus, at least when developing with Unity, you target the Android platform. I'll admit I've never actually looked at what is under the hood in the Quest.
- jayd16 3y ago
  Yep, just Android. Uses the android SDK and tools.
RobotToaster 3y ago
>There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually Google glass?
- eternityforest 3y ago
  Yeah, like that, but a version that people actually want!
- XorNot 3y ago
  Glass had the misfortune of a limited rollout and landed at exactly the wrong moment for people to lose their mind about a camera being "on". Because fast forward to now and the horse has bolted into the glue factory.
- jayd16 3y ago
  It wasn't Android and not even more than a very simple hud.
AshamedCaptain 3y ago
> There's gonna be Android for Eyeballs eventually How many Android for eyeballs has Google released already? I count at least 3. - Whatever Cardboard was using (2013ish) - Daydream platform (2016ish) - Whatever Samsung Gear VR used (2018ish) All of them nice gimmicks, but also commercial failures and abandoned.
- DonHopkins 3y ago
  You missed Showers for Glassholes. https://www.siliconrepublic.com/gear/robert-scoble-wears-google-glass-in-the-shower-memes https://www.siliconrepublic.com/gear/robert-scoble-wears-goo...

7e 3y ago

Open source software developers could never approach the masterpiece of software craftsmanship is on display here. Only exceptional, highly paid professionals with intense focus can achieve this. Generally, those who can, do and get paid handsomely, those who can't, pretend by volunteering their open source. We're talking Hollywood composer vs. music teacher, here.

wickedsickeune 3y ago
The best software I've ever used is git and it's FOSS. The closed source alternatives don't even come close, even on niche usecases.
- 7e 3y ago
  You should try Google and Facebook's internal SCM tools. Better than Git by miles. Git itself was a copy of the real innovator in the space, BitKeeper. Git, being free, has undercut commercial solutions, and that market is now a wasteland.
  - maigret 3y ago
    Interestingly GitHub and GitLab have captured most of that market by plugging the gaps in the developer journey. I sometimes use git standalone for personal work but wouldn't dare for a bigger project.
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
  - hhjinks 3y ago
    What makes those solutions better?
pharmakom 3y ago
don't check the license section of your latest iGizmo.
DoesntMatter22 3y ago

akmarinov 3y ago

You say you don’t expect anything groundbreaking and then compare it with arguably the most groundbreaking product ever

Mordisquitos 3y ago
But the comparison is that it is "[arguably the most groundbreaking product ever] sticked to your eyes", and the property of groundbreakingness is not necessarily transitive.
dandellion 3y ago
If you make a list of groundbreaking products that would include the light bulb, the bicycle, the refrigerator, the radio, the car, printed books, the newspaper, the TV, personal computers, mobile phones... The iPhone is great, but I doubt it could even make it to the top ten.
- ifyoubuildit 3y ago
  This is what Apple really sells. I read parent's comment and was sorta nodding along, and then read yours and realized 1) it's kind of a ludicrous statement, and 2) it sounded reasonable to me. Marketing works.
- artimaeis 3y ago
  I feel like comparing categories of products to an individual make of product is a bit unfair. Like, of course the car was a world-changing invention. And Ford's original model T remains a significant point of the history of automobiles. The smartphone was certainly a world-changing invention, and it seems the iPhone was just as historically significant to it as a technology. I don't think the LG Prada is going to be so thoroughly remembered by history.
- akmarinov 3y ago
  The things you list aren't products, they're the inventions. The car is the invention, a car product is a Tesla. The TV is the invention, a TV product is the LG OLED CX. I'm not saying the iPhone is the greatest invention ever (though the telephone might be). I'm saying that it's one of the most groundbreaking and transformative products ever. Hope that clears it up.

suction 3y ago

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