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Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nova-kakhovka-dam-kherson-region-blown-up-by-russian-forces-ukraines-military-2023-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com

Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nova-kakhovka-dam-kherson-region-blown-up-by-russian-forces-ukraines-military-2023-06-06/ https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/nova-kakhovka-dam-khers... Simulation of worst-case scenarios: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tRYWbVD5AE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tRYWbVD5AE The Russian State News agency claims that the dam "collapsed due to damage" https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1665929603251068928?s=20 https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/166592960325106892... Ukraine says it was destroyed by the Russian military. Google maps: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kakhovka+Hydroelectric+Power+Plant+351MW/@46.9944585,33.0453806,9z/data=!4m6!3m5!1s0x40c3854022407b99:0x8b499c66946348c!8m2!3d46.774826!4d33.3718376!16s%2Fm%2F0_vbknx?entry=ttu https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kakhovka+Hydroelectric+Pow... Update - high quality video of the breach: https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665935477671690240/mediaviewer https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665935477671690240/med...

daemoens 3y ago
Remove the /mediaviewer from your final link, it's currently saying the tweet doesn't exist with /mediaviewer.
vlovich123 3y ago
“Collapsed due to damage“. Looks pretty clearly like an explosion. Russian state news agency. The fine folks that bring news reports like “local nerd found hitting himself by school bully”
- boeingUH60 3y ago
  Well, explosive damage..
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Interesting follow-up by the same poster here, quoting WaPo tweeting some Maxar photos, showing that the dam seems to have suffered some damage in the past week - adding credence to the possibility that it did, in fact, "collapsed due to damage", without either side specifically pulling the trigger today. https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665937030222692352 https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665937030222692352 But that brings up the question, what was happening there in the week prior? Was there any active fighting in the area?
  - kranke155 3y ago
    The Russians deliberately allowed water levels to raise to unprecedented levels. Most likely in preparation to detonate it. https://twitter.com/intelarrow/status/1666010580497448960?s=46 https://twitter.com/intelarrow/status/1666010580497448960?s=... This could’ve caused the damage?
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- spaceheater 3y ago
  US 'cannot say conclusively' what happened in dam breach - Kirby Yeah right. lol. And that is a clear signal that Ukraine was behind it. But as always the warmongers will try 4d chess to convince you Russia did it, like it blew nord stream, attacked crimea bridge, and shot missiles into Poland.
  - ptnxlo 3y ago
    This is by far hilarious and sad. You have an interesting way to tweak facts and transform the narrative. You could make a career out of it (if you haven't done so). (Zero value reaction to a comment with no value whatsoever)
  - tim333 3y ago
    It could just be the US doesn't have special info, like the rest of us. The fact that it was in a Russian controlled area, rigged with Russian explosives and that the damage would mostly be inflicted on Ukraine suggest maybe it was Russia, no 4d chess required.
  - yablak 3y ago
    Strikes me as "let's confirm and be extra sure before making public statements". But feel free to tell the story you want to hear.
nicce 3y ago
Who benefits the most from the collapse? Does it disturb Ukraine or Russian military the most? Who will achieve military goals because of this? Does it help Ukraine in information warfare? (does it increase West participation to war)
- KptMarchewa 3y ago
  Not really benefits anyone's offensive or defensive plans. Maybe political but that's a stretch. No one comes out with prepared narrative too, which makes it look like an accident.
  - nicce 3y ago
    It has already caused loud cry from EU politicans, before we even know the reason. President of the European Council: "The destruction of civilian infrastructure clearly qualifies as a war crime - and we will hold Russia and its proxies accountable." https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel/status/1665971118354710529 https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel/status/1665971118354710529
  - lost_tourist 3y ago
    However it didn't blow itself up, someone did it.
- Yizahi 3y ago
  Obviously ruzzia benefits, by blocking western front in preparation of the Ukrainian advance.
  - nicce 3y ago
    It blocks or slows only couple weeks at max. Not really a big gain. The river has 6 dams. Ukraine can control the upstream flow. It is estimated than in three days, the highest point in downstream is reached and then it will get lower. In the war which has lasted more than year, the benefit is meaningless. On the other hand, the flow flushes all the Russian defenses on the other side. And the source of drinkable water in Crimean is ruined.
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daemoens 3y ago

Remove the /mediaviewer from your final link, it's currently saying the tweet doesn't exist with /mediaviewer.

vlovich123 3y ago

“Collapsed due to damage“. Looks pretty clearly like an explosion. Russian state news agency. The fine folks that bring news reports like “local nerd found hitting himself by school bully”

boeingUH60 3y ago
Well, explosive damage..
TeMPOraL 3y ago
Interesting follow-up by the same poster here, quoting WaPo tweeting some Maxar photos, showing that the dam seems to have suffered some damage in the past week - adding credence to the possibility that it did, in fact, "collapsed due to damage", without either side specifically pulling the trigger today. https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665937030222692352 https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1665937030222692352 But that brings up the question, what was happening there in the week prior? Was there any active fighting in the area?
- kranke155 3y ago
  The Russians deliberately allowed water levels to raise to unprecedented levels. Most likely in preparation to detonate it. https://twitter.com/intelarrow/status/1666010580497448960?s=46 https://twitter.com/intelarrow/status/1666010580497448960?s=... This could’ve caused the damage?
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spaceheater 3y ago
US 'cannot say conclusively' what happened in dam breach - Kirby Yeah right. lol. And that is a clear signal that Ukraine was behind it. But as always the warmongers will try 4d chess to convince you Russia did it, like it blew nord stream, attacked crimea bridge, and shot missiles into Poland.
- ptnxlo 3y ago
  This is by far hilarious and sad. You have an interesting way to tweak facts and transform the narrative. You could make a career out of it (if you haven't done so). (Zero value reaction to a comment with no value whatsoever)
- tim333 3y ago
  It could just be the US doesn't have special info, like the rest of us. The fact that it was in a Russian controlled area, rigged with Russian explosives and that the damage would mostly be inflicted on Ukraine suggest maybe it was Russia, no 4d chess required.
- yablak 3y ago
  Strikes me as "let's confirm and be extra sure before making public statements". But feel free to tell the story you want to hear.

nicce 3y ago

Who benefits the most from the collapse? Does it disturb Ukraine or Russian military the most? Who will achieve military goals because of this? Does it help Ukraine in information warfare? (does it increase West participation to war)

KptMarchewa 3y ago
Not really benefits anyone's offensive or defensive plans. Maybe political but that's a stretch. No one comes out with prepared narrative too, which makes it look like an accident.
- nicce 3y ago
  It has already caused loud cry from EU politicans, before we even know the reason. President of the European Council: "The destruction of civilian infrastructure clearly qualifies as a war crime - and we will hold Russia and its proxies accountable." https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel/status/1665971118354710529 https://twitter.com/CharlesMichel/status/1665971118354710529
- lost_tourist 3y ago
  However it didn't blow itself up, someone did it.
Yizahi 3y ago
Obviously ruzzia benefits, by blocking western front in preparation of the Ukrainian advance.
- nicce 3y ago
  It blocks or slows only couple weeks at max. Not really a big gain. The river has 6 dams. Ukraine can control the upstream flow. It is estimated than in three days, the highest point in downstream is reached and then it will get lower. In the war which has lasted more than year, the benefit is meaningless. On the other hand, the flow flushes all the Russian defenses on the other side. And the source of drinkable water in Crimean is ruined.

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