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I watch plenty of videos and I've never had a problem with the big streaming sites delivering h264 versions. The only flash videos I still encounter are on olde

by yardie 15y ago

I watch plenty of videos and I've never had a problem with the big streaming sites delivering h264 versions. The only flash videos I still encounter are on older, lightly, maintained sites or sites that just download flv files. And if iPad sales are any indication I don't think it's as big a deal as you make it out to be.

gcp 15y ago
The iPad includes H264 support, as does Chrome. Firefox doesn't (and neither does Chromium, does it?). So this does screw anyone over who wants to watch H264, which really is the majority of video on the web.
- daleharvey 15y ago
  nobody wany yo watch h264, they want to watch video, its up to the site to accomodate them
  - gcp 15y ago
    Yeah right, websites really care for the Linux user on Firefox and are willing to go to extra lengths to accommodate him.
cookiecaper 15y ago
People won't serve you HTML 5 video unless you impersonate a mobile device. It's still a problem if you don't want to change your user-agent every time you visit a website and just cross your fingers that they think you're mobile and therefore serve up HTML 5 (and as others have pointed out, often in a format that non-Chrome won't play anyway).
- jrockway 15y ago
  youtube.com/html5
  - cookiecaper 15y ago
    Right, YT is one among a handful of exceptions that serve HTML 5 to a desktop browser. That doesn't really change the general argument -- almost all sites are not going to give HTML 5 video as an option to desktop clients.
    - jrockway 15y ago
      I didn't realize anybody used other sites for video :)
      - lazugod 15y ago
        They somewhat appear to want to: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-cold-war http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-col...
        jrockway 15y ago
        I don't think this is "Fuck Google" so much as it is "Fuck people uploading stuff through this interface." If I write some software that costs $999 and only works on HP/UX, it's not "Fuck Microsoft" or "Fuck Apple". It's "Fuck me." I think they call it cutting off your nose to spite your face.

by yardie 15y ago

gcp 15y ago

The iPad includes H264 support, as does Chrome. Firefox doesn't (and neither does Chromium, does it?). So this does screw anyone over who wants to watch H264, which really is the majority of video on the web.

daleharvey 15y ago
nobody wany yo watch h264, they want to watch video, its up to the site to accomodate them
- gcp 15y ago
  Yeah right, websites really care for the Linux user on Firefox and are willing to go to extra lengths to accommodate him.

cookiecaper 15y ago

People won't serve you HTML 5 video unless you impersonate a mobile device. It's still a problem if you don't want to change your user-agent every time you visit a website and just cross your fingers that they think you're mobile and therefore serve up HTML 5 (and as others have pointed out, often in a format that non-Chrome won't play anyway).

jrockway 15y ago
youtube.com/html5
- cookiecaper 15y ago
  Right, YT is one among a handful of exceptions that serve HTML 5 to a desktop browser. That doesn't really change the general argument -- almost all sites are not going to give HTML 5 video as an option to desktop clients.
  - jrockway 15y ago
    I didn't realize anybody used other sites for video :)
    - lazugod 15y ago
      They somewhat appear to want to: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-cold-war http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/02/21/apple-google-col...
      - jrockway 15y ago
        I don't think this is "Fuck Google" so much as it is "Fuck people uploading stuff through this interface." If I write some software that costs $999 and only works on HP/UX, it's not "Fuck Microsoft" or "Fuck Apple". It's "Fuck me." I think they call it cutting off your nose to spite your face.