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>Unironically posting ancient aliens. First video, guy finds small piece of metal with a metal detector. He's a geology professor, but doesn't go into the geolo

>Unironically posting ancient aliens. First video, guy finds small piece of metal with a metal detector. He's a geology professor, but doesn't go into the geology at all, just "I've never seen anything like this in all my years" ∴ alien metallurgy maybe. Second video: Are there desirable properties to an alloy of bismuth and magnesium? The 'expert metallurgist from New Jersey' didn't say, just that they didn't know of any way to make it. All that really proves is the limits of the knowledge of one metallurgist from New Jersey. There are any numbers of ways that metal might condensate in layers over time, all unlikely to naturally occur, but any far more likely than ancient aliens. Third video: Guy literally admits that this is all pure speculation and that no definitive conclusions can be drawn from these random pieces of metal and that none of them are rule out all possibilities besides the existence of visitors with manufacturing technology beyond our comprehension.

graderjs 3y ago
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- hypnotode 3y ago
  whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weaponize them exists. If they do not, it is still to their advantage for their adversaries to believe they might. As such no position of authority within the US government gives the meat of the claim -nonhuman origins- any greater legitimacy. It makes the claims the programs are real more legitimate. It makes the claims that they have recovered objects more legitimate. But my priors on the likely origin of those objects have not been shifted by any of evidence thusfar presented. At no point has he made any sort of claim as to WHY they believe they have evidence of non human technology, merely asserted that the evidence exists. If it exists and this guy has the clearance, then he should have leaked that. I know he said he's keeping it secret for security but then what was the point of leaking it in such a way as to be indistinguishable from a psyop? All the people like you already believe what he's claiming, and all the people like me won't be convinced by the level of evidence he's presenting. What has been accomplished?
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  - graderjs 3y ago
    Ha ha ha! :) No, I replied the right one, you need to own your own opinion, but just go to your own limit, and remember you don't know me, so don't pretend you do, okay? Ha ha ha! Good! :)
    - hypnotode 3y ago
      Oh I was referring to myself when I said replied to the wrong comment. Seems I omitted the subject of the sentence, and you assumed I was referring to you. No one can ever know the mind of another, so we use the things others say and do to form simplified models. From the things you've posted in this thread, my model of you is someone who has believed the US government to be in possession of alien craft prior to David Grusch's announcement. That is the only piece of information I implied when I said 'people like you', no pejorative connotation. People who already believed what Grusch is saying is true. Was my model of you accurate? y/n I notice you didn't answer my question on the wrong thread that I replied to. Do you believe the theories of every researcher who has appeared on ancient aliens with equal credibility? y/n If not, what is your criteria for which ones you believe more or less than others? If you treat every theory with equal seriousness, I would like to know your opinion on the following statement: "The moon is made of cheese, I have proof" I have a piece of cheese from the moon. It's well toasted from it's entry through Earth's atmosphere of course, but I've had a widely respected dairy farmer examine it, and he confirmed that it is real cheese. Well toasted cheese does not simply appear in fields such as the one I found it in. The only explanation is that it was knocked off of the moon and fell to earth. Do you believe me? why/ why not
      - graderjs 3y ago
        Right, I thought that at first but then I went with the opposite! Gave it to much time to cook, I suppose! Ha ha ha! :) Ha ha ha! :) A sequence of y/n questions. A human is not a computer, you really don't know people, do you? Ha ha ha! :) No, I am so much more than you can fathom. Your model of me is nothing, yet people can know the mind and more of another, a skill you have not yet mastered, I see. Ha ha ha! :) You worry too much, and have not taken responsibility for your opinions, so you are lost in confusion. I could teach you how, but, I don't think you're ready. Ha ha ha! :)

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hypnotode 3y ago
whoops, replied to the wrong post. Watched it last night. I believe that guy truly believes. I believe the leaker is real. I believe the programs are real. I even believe they've observed phenomena/ recovered samples they can't explain. None of that is direct evidence of aliens. If the US government actually possesses meta-materials of non human origin, they will never be declassified as long as the potential to weaponize them exists. If they do not, it is still to their advantage for their adversaries to believe they might. As such no position of authority within the US government gives the meat of the claim -nonhuman origins- any greater legitimacy. It makes the claims the programs are real more legitimate. It makes the claims that they have recovered objects more legitimate. But my priors on the likely origin of those objects have not been shifted by any of evidence thusfar presented. At no point has he made any sort of claim as to WHY they believe they have evidence of non human technology, merely asserted that the evidence exists. If it exists and this guy has the clearance, then he should have leaked that. I know he said he's keeping it secret for security but then what was the point of leaking it in such a way as to be indistinguishable from a psyop? All the people like you already believe what he's claiming, and all the people like me won't be convinced by the level of evidence he's presenting. What has been accomplished?
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- graderjs 3y ago
  Ha ha ha! :) No, I replied the right one, you need to own your own opinion, but just go to your own limit, and remember you don't know me, so don't pretend you do, okay? Ha ha ha! Good! :)
  - hypnotode 3y ago
    Oh I was referring to myself when I said replied to the wrong comment. Seems I omitted the subject of the sentence, and you assumed I was referring to you. No one can ever know the mind of another, so we use the things others say and do to form simplified models. From the things you've posted in this thread, my model of you is someone who has believed the US government to be in possession of alien craft prior to David Grusch's announcement. That is the only piece of information I implied when I said 'people like you', no pejorative connotation. People who already believed what Grusch is saying is true. Was my model of you accurate? y/n I notice you didn't answer my question on the wrong thread that I replied to. Do you believe the theories of every researcher who has appeared on ancient aliens with equal credibility? y/n If not, what is your criteria for which ones you believe more or less than others? If you treat every theory with equal seriousness, I would like to know your opinion on the following statement: "The moon is made of cheese, I have proof" I have a piece of cheese from the moon. It's well toasted from it's entry through Earth's atmosphere of course, but I've had a widely respected dairy farmer examine it, and he confirmed that it is real cheese. Well toasted cheese does not simply appear in fields such as the one I found it in. The only explanation is that it was knocked off of the moon and fell to earth. Do you believe me? why/ why not
    - graderjs 3y ago
      Right, I thought that at first but then I went with the opposite! Gave it to much time to cook, I suppose! Ha ha ha! :) Ha ha ha! :) A sequence of y/n questions. A human is not a computer, you really don't know people, do you? Ha ha ha! :) No, I am so much more than you can fathom. Your model of me is nothing, yet people can know the mind and more of another, a skill you have not yet mastered, I see. Ha ha ha! :) You worry too much, and have not taken responsibility for your opinions, so you are lost in confusion. I could teach you how, but, I don't think you're ready. Ha ha ha! :)