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> in 2019-2020 Hillary was still saying the election was stolen from her That’s just a straight up lie. Or—being charitable—a shameless false equivalence. She
by photonerd 3y ago
> in 2019-2020 Hillary was still saying the election was stolen from her
That’s just a straight up lie. Or—being charitable—a shameless false equivalence.
She repeated the (proven) fact that there was widespread Russian involvement in promoting her opposition & a disinformation campaign.
- elzbardico 3y agoPeople like you are going to repeat the lie of Russian Collusion till the end of time, no matter how much it has been thoroughly debunked. Partisanship is really annoying.
- tracker1 3y agoFor varying definitions of proven compared to 2020 or earlier elections. edit: note "Twitter files" showed that the claim of large Russian influence was unsubstantiated.
- photonerd 3y agoThe Twitter Files absolutely did not show that. They DID show how many of Elon’s sycophants are really damn gullible however. The Twitter Files showed zero of note, they were themselves an orchestrated propaganda exercise that suckered exactly who it was aimed at, but was widely—and deservedly—mocked in every other circle as completely unserious. Hell, they destroyed what little reputation Matt Taibbi had left. Even he had to backtrack somewhat after the fact (in the most milquetoast, admit no actual fault, fashion tho I might add). At most they revealed that the Twitter safety team did much more than they were credited for publicly, and revealed that most people have no idea what Trust & Safety involves. As for “various definitions of proven” in this case the definition is “actually happened in reality and we have the receipts”, as in “proven fact”. Hell, people went to jail over it.