> So you are saying the waiting times in the Swedish hospital system have no effect whatsoever? I wasn’t saying anything even remotely similar to that. > Nord

> So you are saying the waiting times in the Swedish hospital system have no effect whatsoever? I wasn’t saying anything even remotely similar to that. > Nordics love to pick on US when their own healthcare have up to a decade of waiting times for inportant procedures. It’s not a competition. There are serious problems within Swedish (and probably Nordic overall) healthcare, in particular non-urgent procedures like hip replacement surgery. We should criticize them both. However, I’ve been living in both systems. In the US the total cost (both taxes and private) is >2x, and the outcome is significantly worse, in aggregate. Getting what’s considered “excellent” health insurance can still land you in a hell hole of legal disputes and unimaginable medical debt. I absolutely don’t blame you for your disappointment, but the US system is much, much more broken, in aggregate, and not just for “the poor”, but for everyone except perhaps multi-millionaires. > Its neither free nor is it working. It’s never free. However “working” is not a boolean, it’s floating point. It can get much, much worse. > I also pay private health insurance as do half of the population here. Out of curiosity, where? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but it’s news to me. I thought it was way less common. > Nordics celebrating nordic superiority is[..] Beyond stupid, indeed. The mindset “at least we’re better than X” leads to complacency and is a huge flaw in many people’s thinking. Everywhere. I don’t endorse any of that.