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Whether it's true or not, there are some predictable consequences to a mainstream "proof of aliens" scenario: - for national governments, the choice to accept

Whether it's true or not, there are some predictable consequences to a mainstream "proof of aliens" scenario: - for national governments, the choice to accept revealing the existence of aliens now would be an implied endorsement of the current world order. e.g. everything has changed, we need to suspend new changes until we know more. Looks bad for elections. - it is a reason to dispense with rules and limits on sovereign powers that were created without this key ontological knowledge. Aliens are the ultimate existential emergency, states will do what they want "for humanity." Your privileges are a from a world that no longer exists, etc. - even if it's a hoax, elevating aliens to official news seizes back lost official narrative control, which twitter had made untenable this weekend. - Worst case scenario, it would imply a mandate from "above" to do whatever the coordinating body behind this revelation might have planned. Whether this alien thing is true or not, any mainstream acceptance of an alien visitation can be interpreted a signal for co-ordination around a narrative that would very likely be in service to these objectives, imo.

graderjs 3y ago
Nah man, if that were true, governments & corporate would have revealed the existence of aliens when they first knew about them. Rather than playing an elaborate counterintelligence cover game, pretending they have advanced projects reverse engineering, creating technology, a secret space program, to give the illusion of control and knowledge about some thing they don’t understand, they can’t reproduce, and they have no control over. You’re right, the aliens are above Earth governments, and corporations. But that’s why they can’t reveal them: why we gonna listen to them if there’s something better out there? The creation of a new priest class? unlikely. Official disclosure at this point just means the corporate government superstructure has become comfortable with vulnerability and they’re OK that humanity goes on this path together to adjust to this new reality, rather than thinking they have to lie, be afraid, and deny everything to keep it all super secret, just to protect their authority. The wiggle is that maybe they are only “comfortable with vulnerability” now that they think they can keep us under total control after our sheepishness during the pandemic. Hopefully not, but let’s see how this plays out, and if this even becomes or helps beget official disclosure.
- motohagiography 3y ago
  If this story goes into more mainstream outlets, it's pretty clear it's just an attention distraction they can turn on and off like a tap to keep people watching the news confused. The only interesting question (or trade) to me is what this alien narrative is a pretext for. What I am 100% sure of is that if aliens existed, they could have chosen to reveal themselves at any time, there is no concievable civilization that could consider our current order worthy of endorsement, and that to human power, power is everything and the only thing. You can't imagine how some of them suffer without it. So even if aliens existed and the artifacts were real, if this story gets into mainstream rotation, there is zero chance it is anything other than a diversion tactic for another significant politcal event.
  - graderjs 3y ago
    Or maybe you've just been conditioned to think it's a distraction, as part of the disinfo campaign in order to dismiss it? A way to protect from the very leaks that may be happening now! Ha ha ha :)
- _1feg 3y ago
  Nah man, it's true because now they have the capacity to generate all of this fake garbage at the press of a button. They could never have pulled it off before in a convincing way. If the entire planet is going to be unified under a single authority that takes its orders from "aliens", it best be convincing. That's the direction we're headed.
  - graderjs 3y ago
    If that's as far as you can get with it, I understand. But what if the "psyop" was you being conditioned to interpret it like that? Ha ha ha :)
    - _1feg 3y ago
      And what if the psyop is you being conditioned to condition me into believing that I'm being conditioned into interpreting it like that? You can talk in circles all you like, but at the end of the day basic rationality rules. Look at the playing field, look at what's at stake, look at the current state of affairs in the world, look at who has to gain what, and it's all rather obvious. If you can't see through that then it's on you.

graderjs 3y ago

Nah man, if that were true, governments & corporate would have revealed the existence of aliens when they first knew about them. Rather than playing an elaborate counterintelligence cover game, pretending they have advanced projects reverse engineering, creating technology, a secret space program, to give the illusion of control and knowledge about some thing they don’t understand, they can’t reproduce, and they have no control over. You’re right, the aliens are above Earth governments, and corporations. But that’s why they can’t reveal them: why we gonna listen to them if there’s something better out there? The creation of a new priest class? unlikely. Official disclosure at this point just means the corporate government superstructure has become comfortable with vulnerability and they’re OK that humanity goes on this path together to adjust to this new reality, rather than thinking they have to lie, be afraid, and deny everything to keep it all super secret, just to protect their authority. The wiggle is that maybe they are only “comfortable with vulnerability” now that they think they can keep us under total control after our sheepishness during the pandemic. Hopefully not, but let’s see how this plays out, and if this even becomes or helps beget official disclosure.

motohagiography 3y ago
If this story goes into more mainstream outlets, it's pretty clear it's just an attention distraction they can turn on and off like a tap to keep people watching the news confused. The only interesting question (or trade) to me is what this alien narrative is a pretext for. What I am 100% sure of is that if aliens existed, they could have chosen to reveal themselves at any time, there is no concievable civilization that could consider our current order worthy of endorsement, and that to human power, power is everything and the only thing. You can't imagine how some of them suffer without it. So even if aliens existed and the artifacts were real, if this story gets into mainstream rotation, there is zero chance it is anything other than a diversion tactic for another significant politcal event.
- graderjs 3y ago
  Or maybe you've just been conditioned to think it's a distraction, as part of the disinfo campaign in order to dismiss it? A way to protect from the very leaks that may be happening now! Ha ha ha :)
_1feg 3y ago
Nah man, it's true because now they have the capacity to generate all of this fake garbage at the press of a button. They could never have pulled it off before in a convincing way. If the entire planet is going to be unified under a single authority that takes its orders from "aliens", it best be convincing. That's the direction we're headed.
- graderjs 3y ago
  If that's as far as you can get with it, I understand. But what if the "psyop" was you being conditioned to interpret it like that? Ha ha ha :)
  - _1feg 3y ago
    And what if the psyop is you being conditioned to condition me into believing that I'm being conditioned into interpreting it like that? You can talk in circles all you like, but at the end of the day basic rationality rules. Look at the playing field, look at what's at stake, look at the current state of affairs in the world, look at who has to gain what, and it's all rather obvious. If you can't see through that then it's on you.